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  1. Big Cotch

    Big Cotch Banned

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    Now you want Blalock at 25??????????? I guess my 6 pages of arguing that Blalock was better than your boy Ramirez is finally bearing fruit!!

    This is too easy.
     
  2. legler82

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    Chad generally throws the ball to the open man. Is it possible that Baker just wasn't open that often?
     
  3. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Coles, a man who's 40 best is a 4.2, is all of the sudden slow?
     
  4. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Plus, I don't remember anyone catching Cotchery on that 70+ yard TD reception in the wild card game
     
  5. zeike

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    O-Line

    No way we go line w/ our first rounder. You can't have too much money wrapped up in the O-line. In 3 - 4 years you'll have to resign Brick and Mangold and those guys will be important and expensive. You can't have another big money guy on the line.

    That's not to say we don't look at it at the end of the first day or early on day 2 but it's just not realistic for #25.

    Look for the Jets to go BPA, with Olsen, Ross, and Spencer as the most likely to be there and be selected. I wouldn't have a problem w/ any of the top 5 WRs either. You can never have too many playmakers...
     
  6. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I don't see why the money 3 -4 years from now would prevent you from drafting a certain player or not. You draft the guy who you will think will make your team better no matter what the position. If it's Blalock than that's the direction we need to go in.
     
  7. hazmat

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    I wouldn't trade up for a wide reciever when we can't even the run ball or stop the run! Are you kidding? Should we trade multiple first day picks for the chance to draft a wide reciever when we need a) nose tackle b) cornerback c) RG d) RT e) LG d) TE?

    I think the top priority is drafting more lineman on both sides of the ball. You can never have enough. I don't care that we have Ellis and Coleman if some strange reason Carriker fell to 25 I would jump all over him. I could give two sh$ts about cornerbacks, if we can't stop the run of pressure the qb we could have champ bailey at both spots and we still won't stop anyone.

    Johnson is the rare pick like Charles Rogers, Mike Williams and countless other freakish athletic wide recievers. As good as he was in college the odds are that he won't be that good in the nfl. Last I looked we got Cotchery and Coles after the 1st round and they are both pretty good.

    So while it's tempting to get a big name athlete the games are won in the trenches and until we have the luxury of having good lines and depth on both sides of the ball I wouldn't expect the front office to go after a luxury player high in the draft.
     
  8. MSUJet85

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    You are a vet here, you should know that the masses wants to vilify a player that is getting a little older for the next big thing, it happens every year
    :lol:
     
  9. DaBallhawk

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    why another o-lineman in the 1st? we can easily get a solid guard in the 3rd or even 4th round
     
  10. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Lol, dude um...shh.

    Not once did i deny that Blalock was a first round prospect or that I would love him. I just did not get why people were so dead set on a guard in the first round in that thread.

    Its "too easy" when you fail to understant someones point and make it the one where you're right and you're wrong.
     
  11. xjets2002x

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    Taking a guard in the first round is never a good idea. If you're taking a guard, you have to trade down.

    Blalock is a GUARD from Texas. Most Pro Bowl guards didn't sniff the first round. Most Texas lineman have "crapped their pants" at the next level the last few years. I would much rather spend the pick on a corner, or Olsen, or even a wide receiver, than I would on Blalock.

    -X-
     
  12. DaBallhawk

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    agreed. i would take a shot at a guy like shawn andrews in the 1st round but not at guys like grubbs, blalock and company. thats just a wasted 1st round pick. you draft impact guys in the 1st round. a starting CB, QB or LT. you cant get a quality CB/QB/LT in the 4th or 5th round but you can easily get a quality guard in the 4th, 5th and 6th round.
     
  13. asscue35

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    Guard in the 1st round?

    For those of you who keep saying that you can get a guard in the 3rd or 4th round, please tell me which guard we can get in the 3rd or 4th round who can help our game?Of course we can get guards in the later rounds, you can get a player at every round in the draft and some undrafted too.
    Its just nonesense to say that you do not draft guards in the first round.Remember when that arguement was used about safeties?See Polamalu, Reed etc.
    For some of you I guess you want to wait till round 2 or so, when Blalock and Grubbs will be gone.I want the strongest part of our team to be our line.We have started that with Da Brick and Mangold.Finish it with Blalock and/or Beekman/Grubbs. We have Thomas Jones now give him the great escort.
    The Texas player transition is as irrelevant as the arguement on Penn State running backs and Florida Wide receivers.URBAN legend.
     
  14. DaBallhawk

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    oh. its that easy! just draft 5 o-linemen in the 1st round and you will have a great running game and you will win football games! i mean the chiefs and colts o-line can dominate the line of scrimmage with a bunch of undrafted free agents and late round picks but who cares. lets just draft 5 o-linemen in the 1st round and we will be fine. its not like you can find quality guards in the 3rd, 4th and 5th round. no, thats obviously not possible.
     
  15. WhiteShoeWillis

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    If you have someone in mind that could help the running game as much as Blalock could in the later rounds why not share who and why? We're all ears. Ridiculing someone for there opinion without giving a good alternative isn't very productive is it?
     
  16. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Well Allenamn, Ramirez, Beerkman, Wrotto, and so on all can be had after the second.

    Honestly, I wouldn't care if we traded 25 for a high pick in the second. This draft is 1-20 deep in the first, and then gets sick in the second on. Our pick at 25 has possibilities, but I don't see value. Blalock to me offers the best value there (well, I like Spencer alot too), and thats why I went with him instead of a later round guard.

    Well just to rebut this quickly:
    Faneca, Hutch, Steinbach, and Andrews are probably the best 4 guards in the game and all are 1st round guys.
     
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  17. DaBallhawk

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    ramirez? wrotto? duckworth? kyle young? dustin fry? arron sears?

    and no, i wasnt ridiculing you. i just dont know why you'd attack someone who tells you that you can easily get a quality guard in the 3rd or even 4th round. the dropoff between the best guards and the middle round prospects isnt really huge, so it doesnt really matter if you pick a guard in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round. i'd rather pick an elite corner in the 1st instead of picking a guard like blalock who's not even clearly the best guard out there
     
  18. Section 227. Row 5

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  19. Hobbes3259

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    Here we go with the phantom 40 by Coles.........

    Coles my have run a fast 40


    But that was also at FSU, as a Freshman, which makes that what...over 10 years ago??????

    Coles will be THIRTY this year with the last 8 playing in the NFL, he is no longer that fast......fcol, get past the homerism. What we have are 2 excellent #2 wideouts, but no true #1.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

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    Dude, if you're hanging your hat on ONE 70 yd TD reception by a guy with a 12ypc average, that fact alone should tell you all you need to know...
     

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