Pick 25? Continue to build O-line with a G

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  1. Big Cotch

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    yeah, and then with our new and improved offense, our defense can rest more, letting up fewer points, and will give our ST a chance to get our O better field position. Then, we can score more points, putting more pressure on the other team, forcing them to turn the ball over. WOW! I never realized that Greg Olson would do all of that!
     
  2. Big Cotch

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    So, what exactly is it that you like about Ramirez better than Blaylock? Maybe it's the fact that he has a HORRIBLE injury history, and wasn't even cleared to work out at the combine, or his Pro Day. Man, you must have watched the Guard position pretty closely during those 3 televised Texas Tech games last year. I love the guys who say they like one guy over another, but really have no clue why they are even saying it.

    Maybe you think he has a cooler name-- it's the same one that guy on the Red Sox has right?
     
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  4. ATL-JET

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    My Bad I meant MARCUS MCCAULEY....and because there is a possibility Barton might be gone by the new season Posluzny is a good fit for our D. He's big and fast and can hit.
     
  5. ANJI

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    I could kiss that report....... why oh why do you guys wish to waste another first round on an offensive line men.
     
  6. JetFanInPA

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    How about to improve our running game, passing game, offense etc...
     
  7. ANJI

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    Well I would not invest another first round pick in a postion that often produces 1st round talent round 2 or round 3 or even round 4. I think most teams feel that way about Olinemen, Safties and Runningbacks. It's a waste, unless you are picking locks in the top five and even that is Ify!!!
     
  8. JetsLookingforDWare

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    Um...Texas Tech runs a pass heavy spread offense...their line has to be very good at the passing game...and Ramirez is probably their best player on the line.

    The best part about that is while he's a terrific pass blocker by all accounts, he's got the size and strength to be a mauler in the running game. He's more athletic and has better mobility than Blalock too.

    To me he's just as good a prospect, if not better than Blalock. The best part is we don't have to use a first on him.

    But damn...you sure are a prick aren't you?
     
  9. Canadian

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    That would be Mr. Blalock
     
  10. Khan

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    Um, you base your analysis on the assumption that he HAS to be good because of a 5 man unit that does well in a pass heavy offense? And you didn't even acknowledge his point about a horrible history of injuries? And you're calling him the prick?
     
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    Um no...you miss the part where I said he was considered the best guy on the line?

    You mean the injury that hurt him all season...but that he played through? The injury he seemed to have come back fully enough to have him being one of the fastest risers on draft boards?
     
  12. Khan

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    Best guy on any line isn't the best way of measuring him, that's silly to think it is. They are a unit no matter how you look at it...and having an injury like that is also always a negative, yes he's rising because he got through it but that does not mean it isn't something to worry about in the future. What's better, anyway, best guy on a top team's line or one on a team that uses a gimmicky offense, if you prefer to judge the success of a unit of 5 on one man and not all of them?

    I'm not bashing him, but there's a reason guys slip due to injuries. Had McGahee not gotten hurt, he was most likely a top 5 pick that year in the draft...didn't the Bears say they would've taken him, but the injury scared them off? Coming back from injuries is always nice, but it's never something you should ignore.

    I hope you still don't want Jarvis Moss either, his interview on Sirius was ridiculous and he's basically a project...or maybe that's just what you prefer, picking the guys that are slightly obscure from the popular opinion that is more rational on these boards? Much like the guys that make up the yearly Randy Moss or such and such player that has no chance of coming here topics?
     
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    A good discussion on a fair topic is starting to disintergrate into name calling.I guess we shall all see what happens next month.
     
  14. Khan

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    Let's not take this any further though, this topic was about pick 25 and if it's worth it to take him...
     
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  15. asscue35

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    Agreed.And I still say that if Blalock is sitting there at 25 get him and dont worry about getting another player or G in later rounds.And we should be shy of addressing our needs at whatever position we need.Some believe that Linemen should not be drafted in the first round.I completely disagree.We afterall drafted a kicker in the second round.
     
  16. Khan

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    And while that is questionable to take a kicker, you cannot question that he has been a decent player outside of the first game this past year. We lost a playoff game due to an inadequate kicker, so we drafted one whose only recurring problem now are kickoffs, but we also are lucky to have good special teams overall, so it wasn't the liability some people make it out to be.

    You draft the players you see fit to improving the team, many teams reach every year, in fact pretty much all teams reach at some point every year. That's why mocks can never be 100% correct, you never know what the actual individuals that make the decisions feel, they don't base everything off of what another thinks like Kiper, after all, it's their job and they have the credentials to do that.
     
  17. jets1960

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    In any evnt, we should look at OT or DT in round one
     
  18. Kentucky Jet

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    BLALOCK is da man! and in rd 3 Ramirez. I'd also sigb COZY COLEMAN for OG insurance.
     
  19. Kentucky Jet

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    Blalock is very worthy at 25. He should be the BAP. I think we should take him. The guy plays with a mean streak and we need that! It all begins upfront and our OL is in need of yopung, talented, BIG people!
     
  20. Our OL does need an upgrade on the right side w/ some more push for the running game. Whether we address that in the 1st round depends on whom is the BPA at that spot.

    Ideally, when addressing OL in the draft, you pass on a guard in the 1st round in favor of an OT unless he has Steve Hutchinson/Alan Faneca type ability.

    W/ that said, the BPA at #25 is not going to be an OT, and may very well be a guard. Is Blalock on hutchinson and Faneca's level? He's certainly close.
     

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