Why the hell do you hate this guy so much and give him NO CHANCE? It can't be because he didn't play, because there are way too many 3rd round picks that don't play in their rookie season and still turn out to be good.
I think the Jets will move Barton one way or the other. That will leave Schlegel and Kassell. Kassell as the veteran and a guy that Mangini really likes will have a leg up on Schlegel. My low expectation for Schlegel is that he and Kassell will split time for the first half of the season or less with Schlegel gradually assuming more of the starters roll. My high expectation for Schlegel is that he is the starter and takes 75% of the snaps at ILB from game 1. I think that Kassell is still gonna get his snaps next season. I think he'll probably have 95-105 tackles, 8 TFLs, and 2 or 3 sacks.
I am not happy with him, yet understand there is a learning curve and we are logjammed with LBS right now. He will be a starter within 2-3 years and a mainstay; just like Cotch so there are similarities weather you want to see them is your choice. But you are right, he did not win DROY
without searching for 6 hours, find me 5 injury free 3rd round picks who were inactive for 12 games that were good players.
If we trade barton, another MLB will be brought in-- no question. What about those 2 guys makes you think the Fo believes they are starting material?
I'm not going to waste my time doing that... I wouldn't even know where to find that information... So answer my original question.
That I agree with. If we trade Barton, it's to move Vic inside, and draft an OLB-- not to have Kassel/AS start.
Well, you said it-- back it up. What question of yours should I answer-- why I don't like AS? I think I've been posting plenty on that topic to answer the question.
I love how you say "I wouldn't even know where to find that information" about something you just stated. Unreal.
I could find a list of draft picks and possibly the games played for 3rd round picks, but how the hell could I find out if the player was hurt or not. Unreal? You mean to tell me you don't think that a 3rd round pick ever rode the bench for most of his rookie season and became a good player ever? Now THAT is unreal. I did find two examples though. I don't know their status at the time, but look up Kendrick Clancy and Darwin Walker to start. Both 3rd round picks who played only a couple games as a rookie and became good NFL players... I think it's a given that anyone could find 5 examples of these types of players easily if the research was done.
Can we all end this lousy argument by agreeing that Anthony Schlegal didn't have a good rookie season, but that doesn't mean we can discount him by any means. Can we all agree on that?
My point is, don't say something that YOU can't back up. I'm sure there are a few- but don't just say things to make your argument seem logical, when clearly you don't have anything off-hand to support it. Bottom line, this guy did not show anything to make you think he is good. If you want to have confidence that the coaches will make him serviceable in 4 years, than good for you. I tend to think it was a shitty pick, and he will be nothing. If he was a 7th round pick (like he should have been) he wouldn't have made it through camp without being cut.
Why don't you back that last statement up. Don't say things just to make your argument seem logical, when you clearly don't have anything off-hand to support it. Go ahead. So if Schlegal was a 7th round pick he would have been cut... Prove it. Also, do you agree with my previous post? I think it's a good compromise to end this stupid argument that is now 7 long pages.
hahah not quite the same- I stated an opinion that I can back up with reasons why I think it-- you made a statement as though it was fact, with nothing to back it up. And no, I don't agree, I don't think he's going to ever make an impact on this team. But thats fine. It's a fair argument either way-I wish I could think the way you do, but I'm critical of my teams moves-- I don't just accept everything they do because they are my team. Hopefully it's me eating crow in a year, but I doubt it.
Well you didn't mention an "IMO" or something similar there, so I assumed that it wasn't an opinion.... And there is no way my statement is fiction. In all of the drafts and 3rd round picks ever.... I already found 2 examples from the 2000 class alone and I looked no further than that. Anyway, you have completely ridden off any possibility of Schlegal making an impact? Oh well, I'm not saying he's going to be Brian Urlacher in the middle or even a starter next year. I'm just saying this: Give him a chance. He was a rookie and didn't play. There have been many rookies in any round that didn't play in their rookie season and became good players. Give the man a chance. That's it.
He should spend less time killing wild bores and spend more time running from them over rocky terraine. In full pads.
No, I haven't "ridden off" the possiblity of him making an impact-- I have however written it off. You know, like a write off-- something you do with a total loss. Again-- you say things, but you don't really know why.
Eh, it's too late for me. I know the expression, but wasn't thinking at all since I have Nova' over Kentucky... Anyway, have you written off or excluded the possibility of him being anything decent in the NFL in his career? I'm a Seinfeld fan, I know what a write-off is....
