An average of one guard per year has gone in the first round since 2000, so while not a ton get drafted high up each year to your point, I wouldn't make a blanket statement to say you don't pick guards in the first round. I also wouldn't take a second-rate tackle vs. a first rate guard because the tackle position is more valuable generally in football. You definitely take the player that will have the biggest impact to the outcome of the game, all things being equal. A wide receiver, running back, quarterback or marquee DE tends to have a greater impact on the game's outcome. But I'd like to improve the play of of our RG position more than I think we need to improve the play of our WR position, currently. Sometimes, the best thing you can say about a guard is to not hear his name during the game, but unfortunately with Moore, that doesn't seem to happen much.
The Guard will come in the later rounds. There are to many holes to fill on Defense before a Guard can be selected.
I agree that there are holes to fill on D, but the run game, specifically the run blocking just sucked last year. Getting Thomas helped, but it doesn't address the run blocking. And when you talk run blocking, you are talking RT and OG. They are just as big of a need as any position on defense. And the Jets have had better luck getting defense standouts in later rounds (Rhodes), than OL standouts in later rounds. I would be very happy if they took Blaylock in the first.
If Greg Olsen is there at 25 not doubt about it we should take him. he needs to be an addition to our team so our passing game could be upgraded and by doing that we wil make our running game come up too.
d-line should not be addressed unless it is for that guy from hawaii. D-Rob is pretty solid at NT he would be elite if we could put on 5 to 15 more pounds. Ellis wont need replace for atleast another 3 years and coleman had a pretty solid year last year and will do good this year as well so there is nothing that really needs addressed unless you want to have a player rotate with Coleman but there is no sense in getting a player in the 1 or 2 round and have him not start, if you are looking for depth or rotation that can be found in day 2. for the people that think we need a NT, it aint gonna happen. there is no one taking in the draft that will be there after 25 except Tank Tyler but with all this mangini player crap i doubt we draft him.
Why is drafting a G in the first round such a big thing? Here are other guards in this draft that are maybe a small notch below Blalock: Ramirez Grubbs Beekman Wrotto (monster sleeper) Alleman I don't see why Blalock is a MUST in the first round. If theres a better player available, then why? This draft seems perfect for our line/front needs. Its strong at the G position, DE/OLB hybrids, and 3-4 ends. What if Meachem was available? Houston? Jarvis Moss?
I agree and still think we need to upgrade the right side of the line. But if we can nab a guy in rd 2-3 then I think at that point it's pretty much go with the Best player available @ 25. We definitely need to get the o-line in shape though now that we finally have a #1 back.
If Greg Olsen happens to fall to us...we take him or we pick up Meachem @ 25 to compliment Dyson. Or Paul Posluzny...we need a play making TE or a shutdown corner or some sort of playmaker on D. a Guard IS NOT a necessity right now and I'm sure there are plenty of guards and/or tackles we can get with one of our 2 #2's our 3rd or on the 2nd day.
yea, i was just about to say meacham is a wr, but i wouldnt mind picking him up in the first round if he is there, i also wouldnt mind revis he is still there. I think we go TE or CB in the first round and if meacham is there grab him. We do need a big posestion reciever for the endzone.
I agree that there are several other good gaurds available in the 2nd-3rd round range, I think saying that it is not a necessity is foolish. The Thomas Jones trade will be a waste if we don't fix our run blocking.
I've said it many times. Whenever you adress your oline, it's a step forward. Get Blalock please and take care of the RT situation.
Blalock or the best guard Why do we have to take a guard who is second rate?If Blalock is there get him. Its simple why wait and get a less effective guard later in another round.I think we have improved our running game with Thomas Jones so why not improve it with a better O line. Why Buy an expensive car and put cheap tyres on it, or CHEAPER tires in this case. I do not understand why people have such a hard time picking Linemen in the first round.See how well it worked for us last yeat.Mangold was great and DaBrick was ok.
What exactly do you mean second rate? Blalock is good, but it's not like he's a HUGE step up from anyone else in the draft. Personally, I like Ramirez a little better. There are tons of guards in this league who are good players but not first rounders.
It's true that you do not have to be a first rounder to be good. But I think that Blalock is the best at his position much like Da Brick and Mangold were the best at their postions.It doesnt matter how far ramirez and Co are behind Blalock.What if we pass on Blalock and someone else gets him and then Ramirez is also gone before we pick again.I think we have to pick who we grade out as best.If it is not Blalock then whoever else it is. I will love to get Branch, but he will not be there and I think DT is a bigger need than G.But because we cant get a DT doesnt mean we shouldnt strenthen the [positions where we are still able to get the best players.
Ramirez would be an outstanding value pick in the third. I also like him at least as much as Blalock, but he is ranked lower because he was in a sort of run and shoot pass block only offense at Houston. He showed at the senior bowl that he can run block, and can even pull if he has to. Then, it came out he had an undiagnosed partial patella tear that he played through in his senior year. If he can play like he did at the senior bowl with a bad knee, he could be an all pro NFL guard some day. He's huge, but still pulled and laid a helmet on his man during the senior bowl. Kid impressed the heck out of me. No need to spend the first round pick on a guard or a TE. We need a CB, badly. If one of the top 3 are still there, watch, it will be a no brainer for Mangini. It was a combination of injuries and poor play at CB that allowed NE to beat us in the playoffs. Keep in mind, Mangini was a D backs coach before becoming the DC in NE. He's going to take Ross, Houston or Revis if they are still there.
Is Ramirez likely to be available in the Third? I havent seen him play ever and short of the bench shwoing he had at the Combine I know nothing about him. How quickly will a CB adjust in this league vrs a GuaRd or Lineman? Houston will definately not be there when we pick at 25.I will take BLALOCK over Ross, Revis and any CB if they are all available when we pick.
If we draft Ramirez, it will have to be in the second round -- and even there he might not be available. He's been flying up the draft board.
Recently, a big trend to improve your running game in the NFL has been to utilize an excellent run blocking guard. Physical guards with talent such as Hutchinson, Steinbeck, and Deilman are highly sought after athletes and have become great assets to their teams in regards to the running game. The running game was our biggest weakness on offense last season. We improved this aspect of the game by signing Thomas Jones and Darian Barnes. We should complete the improvement by upgrading the run blocking on the right side of the line. If we resign Clement and draft Justin Blalock, our offense can have a balanced explosiveness.
