That is an excellent point which I forgot to mention. That very well might have been his best move in his short time as GM. That was a briliant move..especially will be if Clemens ends up being a good starting QB..
I love this time of year watching you all squirm because we have not signed the big FA names. But to me what makes a great GM is the guy who can pickup the unknown guys and have them make an impact on the season. Like said above anybody can outbid another team. Its about being able to get value that distinguishes one GM from another. We are going to build our team through the draft and keep cap space so we can sign back our own players.
that must means Tanny isnt a great GM.. cause outside of dyson the rest of the fA class was a bust last year.
Anthony Clements was not a bust. The Jets got exactly what they paid for: a serviceable journeyman right tackle to hold the fort for a season until they could work out something better. Tim Dwight wasn't a bust. He was doing just fine returning punts and working as the 3rd or 4th receiver until he got hurt. Then he got hurt. That happens. No bust there. Trey Teague got hurt in mini-camp and never played a down. That's terrible GMing right there, acquiring players who are going to get hurt... I wasn't thrilled by the Jet's free agents last year but I don't think they busted out.
I never said Tangini was a great GM but whose FA class didnt have some sort of failures last year we got 2 solid starters more then alot of teams can say.
Typical Jets fans, want to see the Jets go crazy in FA and bag all the big names. Be Patient, just because you spent money on a player doesn't mean it will pan out. Just take a look at LeCharles Bentley. Browns spent a boatload on this guy and what did they get in return, a few snaps and now his career is likely over. High priced free agents are a risk, build through the draft and cheaper alternatives for a stronger base.
I just look at some of the players that Tannenbaum and Mangini have brought in last year and if we can do the same this year, I will be pleased.
The two most active teams in free agency over the last 3 seasons have been Washington and Cleveland. Who wants to step up to the plate with them and compete? Really, we could go 5-11 after breaking the bank also if we really tried. Come on guys help me out here. Those who want to sign big free agents and be like the Redskins and the Browns all raise your hands now. I didn't think so.
And look how the Redskins have worked out by raiding the Jets. Coles is back, Hall is out of the league, only Randy is left there. And don't tell me about Moss, he had one good year, and is an exciting player, but is injury prone just like good ole Abraham. How's that going Atlanta?
those that dont wont go in the season rely on 7 rookies again raise your hand? those that dont like to sign players only to cut him next year raise your hand? you guys keep brining up the redskins. no one is saying go sign 10 FA to major contracts.. but signing 1 big time FA would not hurt us.. you know why those guys got huge deals yesterday? because in the next few years the cap is gonna increase quite a bit. when the Eagles Sign TO and Kearse they went to the SB. while it didnt workout in the end for TO because of conflict.. they still made it to the sb
I don't think we are adverse to signing free agents, just don't break the bank to do so. Alot of people on here want some big names signed, and soon, or else they will pout.
Jevon Kearse became an ordinary player almost as soon as he signed that huge contract. The freak became the fluffy lapdog in record time when his future was assured. Now he's hurt. I hope the Jets NEVER sign a free agent of that caliber. And BTW, the Eagles are not the team now that they were when they signed Kearse. They looked like a sure fire double super bowl winner then and they don't even look like a division winner now. That's what happens when you spend money poorly.
lol why don't you talk to teams like the brown, lions, cardinals, raiders and redskins. I mean this team went from 4-12 to being playoff contenders, a good deal of credit should be given to tannenbaum. Ok he hasn't hit big in FA but we can't expect to get the top FA in the league every single year. We are only having this conversation because the patriots have agreed with Thomas. If it were any other team, we would shrug it off. Please keep things in perspective guys.
the thing is he hasnt done it or attempted to in the two years he has been the gm. the 1st thing that comes out when ever a good player is available. is he will cost to much. We are a big market team why are we so damn cheap. would its kills us to go out and get 1 legit Free agent? whats the point of free agency if we arent gonna try to improve the team. not to mention the Lions and the cards have been tryna buid threw the draft for years. yet they still cant win.
It has nothing to do w/ being cheap. It's about the salary cap. Are there really any free agents out there that you believe/believed were worth about half our current cap space? Nate Clements just got the biggest contract for a defensive player ever....is he worth that? Hell even A Thomas got a huge contract and the jury is still out if he wasnt a product of playing w/ guys like Lewis, Reed and Mccallister, not to mention is almost 30. If you wanna complain about some of the second teir guys like Deillman or Steinbach, however, I'll stand behind you. We've got to address both of our lines, and w/ the lack of talent in FA at the DL position, we surely be targetting a starter for our OL.
But thats what im saying we never go after legit FA's. we are targets a 30 yr old lb/de who has been a backup his entire career and 2 run of mill rbs. i mean seriously if this is it we might as pack it up for FA and start preparing for the draft cause we got some work to do.
Steinbach got a big deal too. The way the Jets find a great guard is to go take one with one of the late first day picks. That's how you find a road grader to take Moore's spot or a strong quick guy to take Kendall's. It's even worse at tackle. There's nobody out there that the Jets could sign that's any better than Clements or Jones. They're all just a lot more expensive right now. Again, the answer is to go draft somebody and train them in the Jets system. Then in a year or two they are a huge plus at an affordable price. These are not still the days of Terry Bradway's dart throwing. The Jets have good people making the ifnal decisions on who gets drafted and who doesn't. They added 4 or 5 fine players last year and they'll probably do the same this year. That'll do more to bridging the talent gap with the Pats than any overpriced solid player or cheap journeyman would.
Talking with Jetfanmack today off the site, he came to the realization that we traded last year's 2nd round pick for Kellen Clemens, Thomas Jones, and a 2nd round pick. Think of the return on this one pick. Seriously, think about it.
I judge the quality of the GM's work on the success of the team. So far, so good. You can speculate on all the "what ifs", "shoulda" "coulda's" and "woulda's" you want, but the bottom line is was the team successful? In my judgement they were. Like I said, so far, so good.
