Marty Schottenheimer fired

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    If I were Bill Parcells I would offer my services for one year. With all the talent on that team he would almost certainly win a superbowl. It would give him an opportunity at that final ring he wants and the chargers an opportunity to search for a whole year.
     
  2. OJDidIt

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    Marty may be a nice guy and a decent coach, but this man is jinxed, cursed, snakebit! He cannot and probably will not EVER win a big playoff game! This year's chargers team should have won the superbowl and Marty couldn't win his first playoff game!
     
  3. OJDidIt

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    Parcells is not that good of a coach anymore. He got OWNED this season.
     
  4. Jetzz

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    Marty is 5-13 in post season action.
     
  5. OJDidIt

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    Ouch. That's sad. And of those 13 at least 3 i can think of are some of the most gut-wrenching in nfl history!
     
  6. xjets2002x

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    Parcells heart is not in it, just his wallet. He got back into coaching because his wife took him bigtime in their divorce.
    In addition to that, he previously had a funnel system for assistants that he could cultivate over the years. His team hopping, and the successful promotion of those assistants, has removed that stability.

    Schottenheimer came back for no other reason than it would have been completely irrational to fire him. Cameron and Phillips are major losses, and wiht one year left, it didn't make any sense to sign a bunch of assistants(nor would a one year deal be enticing). This pretty much had to be done once Phillips skipped town.

    The last thing they should do is offer the job to Pete Carroll. The guy's coaching talents never translated in the pros, because he lets players walk all over him. His sunny disposition is more suited towards being a superstar recruiter, and that's what he should stick with.

    Forget Singletary, he really doesn't have enough experience. Nolan would have made him a DC in the first place if he found him qualified. Rivera is the guy here, and they're going to need a VERY GOOD offensive mind.

    -X-
     
  7. OJDidIt

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    I respectfully disagreed with your position here based on Parcell's performance the last 2 years.
     
  8. Pam

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    I was reading this on SI and thought it might interest a few. (I'll put up the link in a moment)


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/nfl/huddle_up/2006/2007/02/chargers-next-coach.html


    Readers' choices for Chargers coach
    If the Chargers need help choosing their next coach, I hope they're reading Huddle Up today. The nominees are flowing in, ranging from the serious (Mike Martz, Pete Carroll), the longshots (Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells) and the ridiculous (Rich Kotite, Nick Saban, NBA coach Larry Brown).

    In a most unscientific manner, I tallied the responses. Here are the 10 most popular choices and my quick take on their chances:

    1. Mike Martz -- Martz may like an offense that is too wide open for San Diego, which has a much stronger defense than the Rams team Martz brought to the Super Bowl.
    2. Jimmie Johnson -- Johnson makes sense in many ways ... if he wants the job.
    3. Pete Carroll -- Seems like they're a lot of readers who think Carroll fits better in college than the NFL.
    4. Bill Parcells -- Wow, can you imagine if the Chargers basically traded Wade Phillips for Parcells.
    5. Bill Cowher -- No one buys that he won't coach in the right situation.
    6. Jon Gruden -- His success getting the Bucs over the hump makes him a viable candidate. Now, for the matter of his existing job in Tampa Bay ...
    7. Norm Chow -- Only downside is Chow has never been a head coach. 8. Dick Vermeil -- Who doesn't love Vermeil? May be too old, but would still be a popular choice.
    9. Rex Ryan -- Lots of folks have chimed in with the Ravens defensive coordinator. Buddy's son will be a head coach some day, although his lack of experience could bother the Chargers.
    10. Ron Rivera -- How is this guy not a head coach yet?

    Now that you have had some time to mull it over, who is your final recommendation for the Chargers' next coach?
     
  9. zoobooz

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    I think Jimmy would be the most likely if one of the veteran coaches were to surface; however, I think it will more likely be a three-way race between Caldwell of the Colts, Chow, or Rivera.

    At the end of the day I'd like to see Chow, but my gut says Caldwell. Rivera's Chicago Defense clashes with the Chargers personnel, and SD should target a coach that can best utilize the current talent for an immediate run without altering the best chemistry in the NFL this past season (outside of the playoffs).
     
  10. MisterMoss

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    Not only with this change backup the Chargers, but it's also going to severely impact the teams of the coordinators they will hire. It's a huge void to have in a spot like that at this point in the year.
     
  11. Miamipuck

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    I for one would be quite surprised if Jimmy Johnson took the job.

    1.) He lives in the Florida Keys and loves that lifestyle. I have several friends that have dealings with him. I doubt he wants to leave that area. 2.) He has the easiest job in the world right now. Every Friday/Saturday a limo comes to pick him up then he fly's to NY or whereever and he does a TV show then back on Monday and he gets a mill or two a year for that. F-that noise no way in hell I come back to that grind If I was him.

    Schottenheimer may not have been a good Playoff coach. Consider the fact that Dungy was just as bad and he won. In fact had Dungy not been lucky as hell he may have lost to Belichick again just like Schott. He was 14-2 and his team did lose but this team is going to win a superbowl eventually. That team is uber-talented. If Peyton and Dungy can win one the Chargers can certainly win one. In fact had the Chargers beat the Pats I think they would have slept walked through the Colts.

    From what I am reading Schott seems like a classy individual. He is not going all over the airwaves crying like a baby when most other people would have in those circumstances. Plus it seems like everyone in the league other then someone named AJ Smith like him. I think the Chargers look like shit here but that is just my opinion.

    Also no way in hell Brian Schott would take this job. Anyone really think Smith would even offer it?
     
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    What about the Raiders D-coordinator, Rex's brother, Rob Ryan?

    He's growing as a head coaching candidate, and he has experience witht he 3-4.
     
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    Looks like Brian is going to allow Daddy to shack up at his place in Manhattan till he can find a new job in the NFL.
     
  14. I bleed Jets Green

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    Looks like Brian is going to allow Daddy to shack up at his place in Manhattan till he can find a new job in the NFL.

    :jets:
     
  15. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    I bet there was huge dysfunction between the GM and the head coach. The GM has assembled the best roster in football with a series of shrewd moves while the HC has failed to win a postseason game. Like pretty much everyone else, the only thing I'm wondering is why he wasn't fired immediately after the Pats game.
     
  16. zoobooz

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    I think Rex Ryan would be more likely of the two... and at second thought he would probably be the best coach to fill the role proven success with a similar defensive philosophy.

    It will be interesting to see who the Chargers can actually get to come in now, though.
     
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    Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports the Chargers may part ways with general manager A.J. Smith after April's draft.

    Of course they'd keep Smith around for his specialty: picking talent. Profootballtalk.com has speculated the same, giving credence to its prediction that USC's Pete Carroll will become San Diego's next coach, and bring Pat Kirwan, who currently works for the NFL, along with him.
     
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    A new beginning
    Bolts act fast in coaching search, interview Singletary
    Posted: Wednesday February 14, 2007 8:43PM; Updated: Thursday February 15, 2007 12:53AM


    SAN DIEGO (AP) -- The San Diego Chargers began their coaching search so quickly that the first candidate to be interviewed ran into the guy he hopes to replace.

    Hall of Fame linebacker Mike Singletary, the assistant head coach of the San Francisco 49ers, met with team executives Wednesday, less than 48 hours after Marty Schottenheimer was fired.

    The former Chicago Bears great said he crossed paths with Schottenheimer, who was still cleaning out his office.

    "I saw him and said hello," Singletary said.

    Singletary, interviewing for a head coaching job for the third time since early January, thinks he's ready to move up after four seasons as an assistant.

    "There's no doubt in my mind," Singletary said after emerging from his interview. "Absolutely."

    Schottenheimer was fired Monday by Chargers president Dean Spanos, who said there was a "dysfunctional situation" between the coach and general manager A.J. Smith. San Diego was an NFL-best 14-2 last season before falling apart in its playoff opener, a 24-21 loss to New England.

    Shortly after being fired Monday night, Schottenheimer said he had no working relationship with Smith.

    "I don't have a whole lot of working knowledge on what happened in the past," Singletary said. "It's unfortunate, but every organization has something going on and I think for me, I'm just really excited to have the opportunity to come here and make the most of the opportunity."

    The Chargers are generally regarded as having the best talent in the NFL, led by MVP LaDainian Tomlinson.

    "All you have to do is turn on the film," Singletary said. "You can watch the offensive side of the ball and watch them run up and down the field, throw the ball and move the ball. I see a lot of potential on that side.

    "Look on the defensive side of the ball and there's a lot of exciting things happening so there's a lot to get excited about here. The nucleus of a great team and having a great run is very exciting, very intriguing about this team."

    One thing the Chargers need, Singletary said, is "leadership ... somebody to come in and really bring everybody together and get everybody on one page. If that happens, something very exciting is going to happen here."

    The Chargers apparently learned a lesson from the Schottenheimer-Smith feud.

    During the interview with Singletary, a leader on the Bears' 1985 Super Bowl championship team, Spanos discussed his organizational structure "and what's expected of the head coach," Smith said in a statement released by the team. "We discussed the roles of the general manager and head coach and how they will work together to win a championship. The goal of this search is to find the man that can help us get where we want to go. We want candidates to have a full awareness of what's being asked of them."

    After retiring in 1992, Singletary spent 10 years as a motivational speaker. Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1998, he began his coaching career in 2003 as the inside linebackers coach of the Baltimore Ravens. After two years in that job, he became assistant head coach-linebackers with the 49ers in 2005. Last season his title was assistant head coach-defense.

    Singletary said he's heard the talk about his relative lack of coaching experience.

    "If I hadn't played the game, if I hadn't been around the game as long as I've been around it and if I hadn't coached it for the time that I've coached it in the role that I've been in, I think I might agree with that," he said. "My question is always, 'Do you want experience or do you want results?' I think that's what I'm all about."

    Singletary also interviewed for the head coaching jobs with Atlanta and Dallas. The Cowboys' job went to Wade Phillips, who had been the Chargers' defensive coordinator. Singletary interviewed last year for the Detroit Lions' job.

    Baltimore Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan, the son of former NFL head coach Buddy Ryan, is scheduled to interview Thursday.

    "He's been ready for a long time," Buddy Ryan said by phone Wednesday. "He deserves a good shot."

    Baltimore's defense gave up the fewest yards and points in the NFL last season.

    Other candidates the Chargers have received permission to interview are Norv Turner, a former head coach with Oakland and Washington; Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera; and Mike Zimmer, recently hired as Atlanta's defensive coordinator after doing the same job for Dallas.

    Turner was offensive coordinator with the Chargers in 2001. He's currently the 49ers' offensive coordinator. He interviewed for the Dallas Cowboys' head coaching job that went to Phillips.

    Singletary and Rivera also interviewed for the Cowboys job.

    Spanos said Monday that the exodus from Schottenheimer's staff -- two coordinators became NFL head coaches and two assistants became coordinators -- contributed to a difficult situation that resulted in the coach being fired.
     
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    Giants! GIANTS!!! RAWR!!!

    Or maybe not...
     
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