We have Shaun Ellis on one side, and a newly locked up to a 5 year contract-Bryan Thomas, so can someone show me where we will play this DE if he (whoever he is) is drafted, we need an OLB, specifically a LOLB, so we should take Lawrence Timmons, Paul Siler, or Paul Pusluzny, and if Pat Willis falls to us....PLEASE take him, i dont want a DE/OLB 'tweener, i want a solid OLB like the guys i listed
We play the 34. Bryan Thomas plays OLB. We need a tweener because the OLBs in the 34 need to be as big as 43 Ends and as fast as regular OLBs. CBS is brainwashing you.
Because in the 3-4, Bryan Thomas is an OLB, and he's proven that this year. Kimo was our other 3-4 DE this year with Ellis. Ellis didn't play great but he is definitely good enough for the position, no question. Kimo is not. So we have to switch him out for a 3-4 DE. However, I think we also need a 3-4 OLB on the other side of Thomas. Patrick Willis (even though he's an MLB in college) is the guy that I would pick if he were available.
tell me, the way his stock is falling, why we can't get Quentin Moses with one of our #2s, He can be a 3-4 DE can't he
1. Patrick Willis is not an OLB in the 3-4. 2. Quentin Moses can never be a DE in the 3-4 he is too light However, Quentin Moses would be a good pick up for a 3-4 OLB. DE's in the 3-4 would be: Adam Carriker "Tank" Tyler Ray McDonald Ryan Macbean Quinn Pitcock Tim Crowder Antonio Johnson OLB/Tweeners in the 3-4 would be: Quentin Moses Anthony Spencer Lamarr Woodley Jarvis Moss Victor Abiamiri I hope we get Spencer at 37.
Why does everyone think we should get a 3-4 OLB? Is that to replace Hobson or someone else, or to use the rookie to rotate in? I thought Hobson did a good enough job, and if our reasoning is to just keep Hobson and have a rotation at OLB, I think that's pretty damn stupid to use it on for a first round pick.
in case you were unaware, there are 2 OLBs on the field in a 3-4, Hobson is one, and CHatham is the other, i think we should replace him, becuase god knows he got hammered and picked on all year, and was shredded
most of the time, BT had his hand down, playing DE, well, a lot of the time, Kimo sucks, and BT has more of a future at DE, if he plays DE, draft an OLB, if he plays OLB, draft a DE, but i see him as a DE
No, Bryan Thomas is STICTLY OLB in the 3-4. In the 4-3 he would be a DE, but in the 3-4, he cannot, in any way, play DE. Last year our LB were: Bryan Thomas (OLB), Jonathan Vilma (MLB), Eric Barton (MLB) and Victor Hobson (OLB). But we still need a DE to replace Kimo, OR a NT and we can then move Robertson to DE. Bryan Thomas will NOT play DE ever in a 3-4. We also, possibly, need a OLB to replace Barton (moving Hobson to the inside), because we need another pass rusher, and Hobson nor Barton are that.
Nice post. Just about sums it up. The need is D-Line right now. Kimo is terrible, Robertson was mediocre as NT (he took half the year to get going,so I am being kind here), as was Ellis. The defensive line was first and foremost the biggest deficiency of the defense and it was not even close. Unfortunately that is the recipe for disaster in the 3-4. If bringing in a NT and moving Robertson to De or leaving NT and just bringing in a DE is the answer than fine do it. BT was the OLB last year and he played well. Hobson played well too however he is not very fast and if the RB gets past the line (which they did allmost everytime this year) Hobson is just not fast enough. Vilma needs more space to operate and Barton can be upgraded no problem IMO. Anyway fix the Dline and the LB's immediately are better by an order of magnitude. Really, they played relatively well last year considering the line in front of them.
Only in obvious pass rushing situations was Thomas a down lineman...... Your telling me a 260 pound end can survive in a 3-4?
The biggest liability on our D this past season was the RE spot. That is why we are looking to fill the spot.
I agree, Kimo was our weakest link........ Of course I wouldn't mind keeping him as a backup and mentor, and to provide depth......
Right, we don't need a 4-3 DE unless he is the OLB pass rusher we're looking for...we need a NT with drob moving to end, but i'm not even sure he fits there cause of his height, we probably just need to get what we can for him. So that leaves us with NT, a college (4-3) DT=our DE, and a college DE/pass-rusher=our OLB
Close but no cigar, biggest liability was hank poteat/the second CB spot all together. Dyson was alright, but Poteat killed us. not to mention a bad DE in isn't QUITE as bad as a horrible CB who exposes the whole secondary. BUT hopefully we will fill up that spot with my man ASSANTE SAMUEL!!!! haha
I think many people forget the basics of what a typical 3-4 front 7 looks like... The ends are usually (hopefully) tall, and is basically a 4-3 undertackle. Ideal height is 6'4-6'6 with the weight (ideally) being close to 290-300. Nose tackles tend to be between 6'1-6'3 with the weight well over 300 pounds. The OLBers are the guys doing the real blitzing. Ideally you want a guy like DeMarcus Ware who can cover, contain, blitz, and stop the run. The guy has to be strong, tall, fast, long arms....basically a physical freak. Think 6'3-6'6 250+ with speed hovering around 4.6 and good strength. Personally, the Jets need help with all that stuff. Someone like Ambrini, Moses, Mohr, or Moss would make me happy, because Hobson isn't the answer long term. Someone like Carriker, Alama-Francis, or even Quinn Pitock would be nice for the end position. Anyone who can take on two blockers well enough would be beautiful as our NT.
Is three inches of hight really going to make D-Rob a bad RE? Everyone is saying he's too small for a NT, okay, but now too short for a RE? His strengths were explosiveness and quickness for a big guy, I would have though that would fit well at DE...........
