See, to me if I'm drafting, I'm taking Reese. Everyone has the same take on him, essentially he's awesome but they aren't sure where he will play. That does not scare me because awesome players find a way to make an impact I will say I was previously down on Bailey though but watched more of him on film and he's got an amazing first step. I think he's my no. 2 after Reese but would not be upset if hes the pick
I'm weirdly not worried about guard. This team has invested high picks in both tackles and center. You can hide a lesser resource at guard. I would not take a guard early in the draft, I think that's a spot for a 4th round rookie and journeyman signing to battle it out for. I would just look for durability and IQ at guard, and that often comes with journeyman signings
Agree. Reese would be the perfect 3-4 olb. Can rush cover do everything. Blitz can line up as edge to rush the passer. As he learns maybe can play more traditional edge. We'll see but feel he is the pick at 2. 16. As of today I think Ioane Penn State guard will be the pick at 16 if there. Can change if we sing a guard but best fit for us. 33. If Ty Simpson is there if not I think wr. Kc Conception Denzel Boston unless we trade for Brian Thomas Jr. 44. Maybe a safety best available. Moves still to come 16, 33, and 44 can change. Little over a month. Looking forward to it.
Well that center pick didn't work out and now the Jets are looking to have nothing but JAGs inside the tackles. Can't just stand pat on the inside because Joe Douglas couldn't draft OL well. Hell one of the tackles is a re-do because he fucked up the Becton pick so badly.
I tend to agree here but the journey man options are not that great. Wyatt Teller, Joel Bitonio, these are the guys that haven’t looked at the part in a few years and I’m not sure we can rely on them for a full year. It does seem like every franchise other than us can find starting IOL in late day two, early day three but with the way this staff stresses the trenches, I’m just worried that 16th pic is going to be used on one. I mean you would like to think if Lemon is on the board he’s the pick no matter what… Right? Outside of that I think they would pass on any DT or safety on the board to take the guard.
I mean Tippmann was a good center and is an even better guard. Hard to say it didn’t work out. Myers played well enough. He wasn’t even the weakest leak last year on a good OL. Simpson was straight up bad… probably made Myers worse. I think we can forget about upgrading center this year but I could easily see him looking better with a better left guard next to him. Also with a quarterback that isn’t the worst in the league which could have been said on separate occasions between multiple players last year.
That might be the case, but within the first 20 picks there is some serious talent in many areas of need for us. The entire secondary positions, LB and WR provides some serious talent. If some jumps the gun on us we can still pick up a stud. I think with the first second round pick we are prime to find a top notch OL. I also have the hope a trade swap for a guard might be in play with some disgruntled OL.
Does anyone know whether Denver was active on draft day or whether they let the board come to them? somehow I can imagine the jets moving up a few for a WR. see that before I see 16 being used on iol which just feels like a much later pick or round
IMO let the board come to you and if some one is trying to move up to the 16th do so and move down a few spots. Lots of talent in the middle of the first.
With the Raiders guard coming on board we might want to find a swing tackle but OL in round one seems unlikely. After we most likely take a pass rusher with that first pick I have to think that CB, WR, LB, S are also high on our list of targets. Wild card would be if TE or RB happens to be the BAP when we pick at any point in the draft. Not sure we could ignore the right player in that situation.
Assuming edge is our pick at #2, I think we NEED to go WR with our next one. I don’t want a G or a CB at that pick. Can’t see S being a high pick since we got Minkah, signed Belton, and have Moore from last draft who seems like a player…unless Downs is still there as such a great prospect, I’d rather pass on S. I get we need CB and LB but we need WR way more. We have only ONE legit WR today. We haven’t signed any in free agency as far as I know. Mitchell and Smith can’t catch…we need help here in a HUGE way and I just would hate to burn a first round pick on a fucking guard after two years of using first rounders on our tackles….I get OK is critical but we have nothing at receiver.
At this point I have no issue with Olailavega Loane at 16th and fix this line once and for all. No need to get too fancy. Run the freaking ball and protect the QB.
I tend to agree but I’m thinking it’s probably more likely the Jets take the Oregon guard at 33. That’s officially a second round pick and affects the contract making it slightly cheaper but a with a player that’s similar. I’ve read they are high on both. #16 at this point is probably WR whether it’s Lemon or somebody else.
I would be very happy if our first three picks are Edge, WR, and OG That to me would be a great use of resources to address huge needs…I’d rather do the WR first and OG second…I’d be much less thrilled if we go Edge, OG, WR Yes we need help at both but a good WR is MUCH more impactful than a good guard
Depends on who's there, but this makes the most sense to me too. I know it's not always great to project positions of need at specific slots, but that lineup of Edge at 2, WR at 16, and OG at 33 seems to align well with potential value too. Then at 44, an ILB like Jacob Rodriguez would make a lot of sense. But I would think DL or even another WR would be very reasonable too. The x factor is Ty Simpson IMO. Not sure he makes it to 33, but it's not crazy. As much QB stocks get inflated leading up, we often see falls too and given his lack of experience and some iffy midseason tape, I can see him falling out of the 1st. At this point, other than WR, there aren't any gaping holes on paper to fill (other than franchise QB)
That may be true but with the Jets scouting dept they have drafted several WRs these past few years pretty high and they have busted ….
Good feedback folks. I'm open either way. IMO is very dependent on the way the draft falls. Lemons might not even be there at 16th; Simpson might be in play, whatever we do, we should never reach because of need, get the most impactful player available with the pick. I would add, we tend to typecast and underestimate the impact of a solid Guard or C. They are instrumental on every play, pass, run, protection. If it saves from getting the QB injured is worth every penny, not much is as impactful as that. We sure dont have a good history of finding jewels on the O line in later rounds, say past the third. Having said that, our history of finding a great WR in the later rounds is even worst, we sure as hell are not the Rams, which apparently never need first round or second round picks to find top talent at any position.
That would basically be ideal: Reese/Bailey, Lemon/Tate, and then hopefully a top Guard at 33. But what if the WRs are gone by 16? I don't just want to take a WR because of positional need, if he has a second round grade and we could get a similar one in round two. While say a guard at 16 is really good, and there is a big drop off to the next one. I think it depends on how the board falls, and depending on what happens the rest of free agency, I would be OK to trade up a bit for Lemon if we cannot get another WR. But I think it is a mistake to take say Boson at 16 just because is a WR, when there could be a top player available at another position.
With the way we let Metchie walk and have made 0 moves at WR I think they are ok with any of the 5 top receivers... Tate, Lemon, Tyson, Concepcion, Boston. I would not be shocked if the target at 33 is Concepcion to play the slot but you just cannot go into this season without a legit WR2. Praying we move 44 for BTJ. That leaves 16 and 33 WIDE open between DL, IOL, S and LB.
I think we made a right decision with Metchie. I reviewed his plays, and basically to give a little love to Tanner here, why he earned a C+ from me and not less, he was schemed open pretty much for all his catches. Both his TDs is Tanner. And he dropped one of the easiest balls that he should have caught for a TD. He has not impressed, and to tag him it would have been 3.5 mil. So it was a right decision not to tag him. Now he did go to the Panthers for 1.9 mil, but I am not sure if we offered him or not, it could have been his choice to leave. My point is, he did not play well enough to earn 3.5 mil, which would make sense for us to tag him. Agreed on Brian Thomas. Would be great if we got him. But I would not pick Boston at 16. Conception at 33 or even a few other guys after are similar level, maybe even better. I would prefer to trade up for a really good WR2 if they start to slide assuming we do not get Thomas. But Metchie maybe is WR5. I would put GW as 1, Mitchell as 3, Williams ahead of him at 4. We need WR2. Smith can battle for #5 with UDFAs and lower picks. Or we could get a vet. Losing Metchie to me is no biggie.
