Jermaine Johnson to the Titans

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  1. FloridaMan

    FloridaMan Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying the Jets pass rush WASN'T in the toilet last season?
     
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  2. FloridaMan

    FloridaMan Well-Known Member

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    They traded JJ for D'Andre Sweat. I hope I got the spelling right.
     
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  3. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Does this mean that Will McDonald plays OLB/DE? I’m trying to think of how McDonald, Arvel Reese, Williams, Sherwood would be as LB in a 3-4 defense.

    I’m happy for JJ, he’s reunited with Saleh and will probably play better in their scheme.
     
  4. FloridaMan

    FloridaMan Well-Known Member

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    Based on what Mougey said, Breece is staying. Things could always change, though. Soon, the Jets will have 4 new top prospects and the 2022 draft will be forgotten. Of course, Garret Wilson will still be a top player on the team. Then 4 more next season.
     
  5. FloridaMan

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    It does seem clear that Jets will draft DE with #2 pick, but Mougey seems to be full of surprised.
     
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  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Well-Known Member

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    Typical Jests - we only have two kinds of draft picks. The ones that suck and the ones that we dont pay when their rookie contracts are up. I wish I could say it is just a continuation of perpetual mediocrity, but we are so bad that we arent even close to mediocrity.

    That being said the trade didnt sound bad on paper, but then again whenever we trade away young stars the propaganda machine always tries to make us believe.
     
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  7. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET 2020 and 2025 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    I was very meh on this till I listened to the interview with the Titans beat writer and holy shit it's a terrible trade. He immediately went into how fat and lazy he is, said it was a terrible draft pick by an incompetent GM. He said Sweat will never be a guy that puts in the effort, Titans tried for 2 years to get him to lose weight and he likes the hamburger shop too much. He also said he maybe plays 20 snaps a game. Listen at an hour 27.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/3_B0s5gY9Ms?si=TGsMiJzcYuBWHmTP
     
  8. mrjet80

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    My gut is telling me Bailey especially if they were to trade down a couple spots. I think as far as LB they seem extremely interested in Jacob Rodriguez out of Texas Tech which they may need to trade up or possibly down into third round for him …
     
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    Poor JJ he gets out of this crap hole only to go to another dumpster fire.
     
  10. NJJets

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    That’s not an answer. Where does he play in the nickel? Where does he play in dime? It’s not joyful if he doesn’t have a position. Are we staying in base 3-4 when the offense runs 11 personnel and having Reese cover the slot? It’d be joyful to have him covering the likes of Khalil Shakir/Cee Dee Lamb/Ladd McConkey? I don’t think so. Does he cover the TE as one of the two LB’s in Nickel? Do you move him up on the line at DE to play 1x1 against a 320 pound OT? I don’t like those odds either. The whole concept of base 3-4 is silly. 3-4 and 4-3’s are being phased out, when you factor teams going in 3 wide sets 65% of the time, and 4-5 WR sets as well, you figure the base D will be on the field 20% of the time, max. Reality is most of the time Reese will be lined up as a MLB in Nickel and Dime packages, covering WR/TE/RB’s. That’s not a position worth #2 overall. Bain will be on the field as DE/edge rusher on every down. Bailey would have a much bigger impact as a rusher. Taking a Nickel LB at 2 overall is silly.
     
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  11. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET 2020 and 2025 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    From what most are saying from the combine his arms are some of the shortest ever recorded, sub 31", he could potentially slip out of the top 10.
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Lions with Glenn had Derrick Barnes. He’s a hybrid that lines up off the TE as an Edge and also lines as a linebacker covering the RB depending on the situation. When healthy he FLIES around the field. That could be Reese’s role here

    There’s a new defensive philosophy in the NFL that’s popular with the new-er age coordinators. “play your best 11 at all times”

    that’s why you are seeing Linebackers becoming edge rushers and nickel corners becoming safeties. They just aren’t taking their best players off the field

    Reese would be “our best 11” if drafted here. Glenn was one of the these coordinators that brought that best 11 philosophy to the league
     
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  13. GreenFan15J

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    Can't comment on if this was a good or bad trade.

    However, you could use one of this guy's jersey as a King Size Fitted Bed Sheet.

    If you like that much Green and White.
     
  14. chandler

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    Liking JJ, and also never seeming to like big fat run stuffer type DTs.
     
  15. Borat

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    That's the thing, this is not Al Woods. The guy is a solid pass rusher too. He gets double teamed and triple teams actually a but more than Q, 67%: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-chip-a...efensive-linemen-who-overcome-extra-attention

    This is a very good trade for us. I would say it was only possible because Bob has connections to JJ and had him rated very highly during draft (#8, when he actually went 24th). I don't think this trade is possible with another team. JJ is coming off a very bad year and had a serious injury already and his 5th year option is not cheap plus rookie deal ending. The more I look at it, the more one sided it seems in our favor.
     
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    Ptflea2 Well-Known Member

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    Per Cimini, 8 out of the 11 first rounders drafted by the Jets from 2015 - 2022 ended up being traded away.

    Hard to believe, but sadly true.
     
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  17. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    beat writers can be cheerleaders though in these other markets. Cheerleading after a trade is common. The guy is also 370lbs so yeah he’s fat, not earth shattering, that’s kinda the point.

    We didn’t give up a lot either, Johnson in a final year of team control looking like half the player he was before the injury

    It’s a wash as both players have potential but issues
     
  18. chandler

    chandler Well-Known Member

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    if both teams and players benefit from the change of scenery I'm happy with it.

    I do think we have been missing some toughness up front and an ability to stop the run
     
  19. BroadwayAaron

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    Sounds like a sack of bullshit if you look at the facts.

    He was 8th ranked against the run as a rookie, 4th last year. Real terrible value and horrible immediate returns for a 2nd round pick...

    Also from the article I posted earlier:

    "Across his 29 appearances, Sweat averaged 37.2 defensive snaps per game. His role shrank slightly in his second year, as he declined from 41.1 snaps per game as a rookie to 31.8 this past season. On a percentage basis, he went from an average snap ratio of 66% in 2024 to 51% in 2025."

    20 snaps a game is literally wrong. It looks like a lazy beat writer looked at his total snap count and divided by 17, not realizing that Sweat only played in 12 games. Crack reporting.
     
  20. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    I get the logic behind this move especially as we are strong at #2 with the strength of the draft early is at edge rushers. Makes sense and I can see Mougey playing to the draft’s strengths which is refreshing.

    that being said, that was the one good draft JD had, and those guys in Sauce, GW, JJ and Hall, along with Q, should have become the young core of this team.

    But yet again, our never ending cycle of hiring bad GMs and bad HCs creates turnover and so here we are, AGAIN, trading away good players (and we draft so fucking few of them) and convincing ourselves that it all makes sense. When in fact it is actually very hard to get better when you keep trading away good players…if you look at the well run teams like Philly, Pitt, Baltimore etc you don’t often see them getting rid of good players…they make sure to keep those guys which is why they are hardly ever really down (crashing for them is like 8 wins) and if they do get down they get right back up quickly….no 5 year plans year after year.

    So yeah…we’ve all been here and seen this movie before and we always find a rationalization for why it makes sense. Let’s hope this GM can do better
     

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