Jay's House of Weather 'n Stuff

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  1. CBG

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    KEY MESSAGE 2...
    There remains a high amount of uncertainty with the development
    and track of a coastal low Sunday into Monday. However, there
    has been a clear trend to the NW the last 24-36h in the low
    track with ECAIFS, AIGFS, the GEFS, and to a lesser extent the
    GEPS. The operational GFS and GDPS (Canadian) the last 2 to 3
    runs have a low track that has been close enough to see some
    snowfall across the region, but not a major event. Bottom line,
    there has been a lot of jumping around of the guidance and this is
    likely due to complex interaction between multiple streams/upper
    lows embedded within a longwave trough across the western half of
    the country. This could still be the case another 24h or so before
    we see better consistency amongst all of the guidance.

    Given the uncertainty, the forecast has continued to follow the
    NBM. NBM probabilities for 6 inches or more are generally less
    than 15 percent, highest across LI. Even advisory level snows
    get no higher than 20 percent. That being said, the guidance
    being all over the place has kept these numbers low. The system
    though is very much worth watching because of its potential with
    incredible deepening of the low Sunday afternoon and night.
    Pressure falls around 24 mb in 12h in the 00Z GFS and GDPS. The
    potential for high winds and heavy precipitation is a concern
    should a more western track become the consensus.
     
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    warmest few days in months here... :)
     
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    GFS model is by itself on an island ,,,still time as this is 3 days away but my guess right now is that the winter trend continues and that this is a miss for us,,,,,,I could be wrong but as of this moment nothing other than the GFS leads me to believe different so either the other guidance will start shifting towards the GFS and all the other models buckle or more likely the GFS caves to the others
     
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    Well Well Well,,,,,,other guidance has begun caving to the GFS who woulda thunk it ,,,,,in the words of Garth and Wayne it is GAME ON !!!!!! Best keep your eyes on Sunday kids
     
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    Players on the field ,,,pieces are almost in place ,,,,,,,the weather models have ALL trended in the right direction since last night ,,,,I sure hope people are paying attention = 48 hours to go and as of right now this storm threat appears to be VERY legit
     
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    L-F-G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!
     
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    Let's fucking Stop!!!!!!

    Monday 10:45 am flight out of Newark. What shall I do with my flight. Please let me know Uncle C :)
     
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    Ahh good to see you Sir it is nice to see that someone has a fu@king pulse as I was getting tired of typing to myself :D,,,,Brook,,,,,how long can you wait to change because IMO you probably aint going to be flying anywhere Monday morning ,,,,,there is still time for changes this is not written in stone yet and we are a little less than 48 hours from the start time but as of right now the models are showing that it might be puking snow Sunday Night into Monday,,,,,if you cant wait change it now if you can wait then wait as long as possible
     
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    Good to see you too uncle C. United issued waiver so I can change it anytime but I am bringing folks from other regions into our North Carolina office so if I have to fly Saturday to avoid the drama I might have to do just that.
     
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    Where in NC Brook as I am down there often myself :)
     
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    I travel Raleigh-Durham area monthly uncle C. Do you know the city of Cary? That's where our offices are :)
     
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    After coming back to normal 60s during the day, and 40s at night , we’re getting 2 more below freezing nights Sunday and Monday: would you guys mind coming down and getting your drunk weather off my lawn. Thanks.
     
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    Brook I am NOT familiar with Cary,,,,,,,my kid is in Charlotte I was down there twice this month already and I will be heading there again next week,,,,,,,too bad you are too far away as I would have treated you to Mickey Dees,,,,,;),,,,,,,in other news safe travels sir and enjoy the snow everyone
     
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    This storm is the real deal and I hope that people take the warnings seriously ----I will just leave this here and I will see myself out
    URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
    National Weather Service New York NY
    244 AM EST Sat Feb 21 2026

    CTZ005>008-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ069-070-211900-
    /O.UPG.KOKX.WS.A.0002.260222T1100Z-260223T2300Z/
    /O.NEW.KOKX.WS.W.0002.260222T1100Z-260223T2300Z/
    Northern Fairfield-Northern New Haven-Northern Middlesex-Northern
    New London-Western Passaic-Eastern Passaic-Hudson-Western Bergen-
    Eastern Bergen-Western Essex-Eastern Essex-Western Union-Eastern
    Union-Rockland-Northern Westchester-
    244 AM EST Sat Feb 21 2026

    ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM SUNDAY TO 6 PM EST
    MONDAY...

    * WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations between 11
    and 15 inches. Winds gusting as high as 45 mph.

    * WHERE...Portions of southern Connecticut, northeast New Jersey,
    and southeast New York.

    * WHEN...From 6 AM Sunday to 6 PM EST Monday.

    * IMPACTS...The strong winds and weight of snow on tree limbs may
    down power lines and could cause sporadic power outages. Travel
    could be very difficult to impossible. Areas of blowing snow could
    significantly reduce visibility. The hazardous conditions could
    impact the Monday morning and evening commutes.

    * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Strongest winds are expected Sunday night
    into Monday. However, snow will move in during the morning and
    afternoon hours.

    PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

    If you must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food, and water in
    your vehicle in case of an emergency. Check local Department of
    Transportation information services for the latest road conditions.

    Persons should delay all travel if possible. If travel is absolutely
    necessary, drive with extreme caution and be prepared for sudden
    changes in visibility. Leave plenty of room between you and the
    motorist ahead of you, and allow extra time to reach your
    destination. Avoid sudden braking or acceleration, and be especially
    cautious on hills or when making turns. Make sure your car is
    winterized and in good working order.
     
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    Area Forecast Discussion
    National Weather Service New York NY
    421 AM EST Sat Feb 21 2026
    WHAT HAS CHANGED...
    Blizzard warnings have been issued for Long Island, New York
    City, and the Connecticut coast.
    Winter storm warnings have been issued for interior southern
    Connecticut, the Lower Hudson Valley, and northeast New Jersey.
    .KEY MESSAGES...
    1) An intense coastal storm will bring heavy snowfall and
    strong winds from Sunday into Monday. Blizzard conditions are
    expected along the coast with near-blizzard conditions across
    interior southern Connecticut, the Lower Hudson Valley, and
    northeast New Jersey Sunday night into the first half of
    Monday.
    2) Potential for widespread moderate to locally major coastal
    flooding and dune erosion/overwashes Sunday night. Additional
    coastal flooding is possible on Monday.
    3) Low pressure and a cold front will bring another chance for
    precipitation during mid next week. Temperatures rising into the
    40s by the end of the week will allow for snow melt.
    .DISCUSSION...
    .KEY MESSAGE 1...
    Confidence has increased to the point where winter storm and
    [​IMG]blizzard warnings have been issued across the forecast area.
    A major winter storm is forecast to impact the area Sunday into
    Monday. Model guidance has congealed in taking a deepening low
    off the Mid Atlantic coast Sunday northeast to near the 40N...70W
    benchmark Monday. This track is often favorable for all snow
    across the region. The low undergoes explosive deepening in 12h,
    tracking from near the North Carolina coast Sunday afternoon to
    east of the Delmarva Sunday night. Most of the guidance shows
    pressure falls on the order of 25 to 30 mb in 12 hour. The low
    deepens to around 970 mb as it approaches the benchmark Monday
    morning.
    This storm, expected to be early 1000 miles across in diameter,
    will produce heavy precipitation and gale to storm force winds
    over the adjacent coastal waters. Model soundings show boundary
    layer winds along the coast 40-60kt with decent mixing. Coastal
    locations can expect to see gusts up 40 to 50 mph, possibly even
    stronger across far eastern LI and southeast CT. Even inland
    area will see near blizzard conditions with winds just a bit
    weaker. The highest winds will occur Sunday night into the
    first half of Monday.
    Liquid equivalent amounts of around an inch across far NW
    portions of Orange county will be near an inch, with upward of
    an 1.5" at the coast. There is even some guidance suggestive of
    amount around 2 inches at the coast. However, while there is
    good overall agreement in the guidance, there still have been
    small adjustments east and west and a consenus forecast (blend
    of WPC and NBM) was used. Snow ratios are expected to start of
    around 10:1 and then possibly get up to 12-13:1. Temperatures
    initially on Sunday may get into the lower and mid 30s, expect
    most locations to fall to around freezing if not lower as the
    heavy snow develops in the afternoon. So ratios right off the
    bat along he coast may even be lower for a short time.
    Snowfall amounts of 14 to 18 inches are forecast along the coast
    with 10 to 14 inches across the interior. NBM deterministic
    forecasts point to amounts of 14 to 24 inches across the area,
    highest along the coast. But due to some wobbling of the low
    track a bit, we do want to see more continuity. NBM 90th
    percentile has amounts of 2 to 3 ft. The 00Z LREF (EPS, GEPS,
    and GEFS) mean has about a foot at the coast and 7 to 8 inches
    across far western sections of Orange County in the Lower Hudson
    Valley. The EPS is contributing lower amounts with a more
    eastern solution. Should it come a bit more west, than the
    higher totals are not out of the realm possibility.
    Snow is forecast to develop from SW to NE on Sunday, in the
    morning from NYC and points north and west, and the in the
    afternoon for the remainder of the area. The heaviest snow and
    wind will be Sunday night into Monday morning. Snow will end
    from west to east during the afternoon hours.
    .KEY MESSAGE 2...
    Strengthening E-NE winds Sunday into Sunday night could produce
    a surge of 2.5-3.5 ft, producing widespread moderate to
    locally major coastal flooding along the back bays of western
    Suffolk and srn Nassau, Peconic Bay, and western Long Island
    Sound, and widespread minor to locally moderate flooding in NY
    Harbor and Jamaica Bay, the lower Hudson River, and ern Long
    Island Sound. The main high tide cycle of concern is Sunday
    night. Areas of dune erosion are likely, with localized
    overwashes possible along the ocean beachfront Sunday night into
    Monday morning.
    Additional coastal flooding will likely linger into the
    Monday afternoon high tide cycle, with a strong northerly flow
    limiting impacts somewhat to minor/locally moderate categories.
     
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    I mean @CBG - I love you but dude can't you give us some good news ever. It has been a snowy season already. When will snowy season end?
     
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    Brook, when all is said and done this winter and there is still some winter left but as of now the #'s might make it look as if we got a lot of snow this season but IMO it was a cold and dry winter for the most part-----yes we got that 1 big storm but that was 3 weeks ago and it has just been ridiculously cold so that snow and ice stayed around. If you want to feel better know this = we dodged 2 very big bullets as those 2 other storms were very close to being the real thing for us but one went out to sea and never came together and the other hit to our South. Sorry Brook There still appears to be some snow chances in our future ( maybe they don't pan out ) but those remain to be seen as first things first we will have to deal with this Blizzard ! There will be many issues with this storm as the winds will be cranking but I suggest that people make sure the generators are working because there will be power outages and check those sump and other pumps because flooding will definitely be a serious issue to the people living near the water. I might post some more updates later but we are pretty much in nowcast time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,btw the snow totals that we are seeing on apps and other places might be on the low side as some models have showed between 2 and 3 inches of liquid and at 10 to 1 ratios or in this case they might be better than that when the storm gets cranking and also the dynamics of this storm are amazing as some models show areas might get 3 or 4 inches per hour ,,,,,,ps long duration storm also,,,,,,,,,,,add in snow drifts and we all get the picture,,,,,,in other news I doubt that Mic key Dees will be open for you or anyone else,,,and it looks like this could be a 4 day weekend for people,,,,,,time will tell,,,,,hang in there everyone
     
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    Brook, I know that you are currently in a fragile state and I just did not have the heart to tell you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GFS says " keep your eyes on next Friday " just sayin
     
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    Okay. Moved myt Monday flight to 8:10 PM. Do you think flights will be able to take off from Newark Airport by then?

    Also, returning on Wednesday night. Saw snow on my weather app for Wednesday night.

    Friday not a problem. But for God's sake, enough with snow. Geez
     
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