I really don't think the cap is an issue with Murray but I get it. I like him as a bridge option personally, even for 2 years if year 1 is not a dumpster fire. If the Jets take Simpson I really hope it's not the 2nd pick and they let him (or any rookie qb) sit for a year.
Like I said, not necessarily the CAP (although that too adds up eventually even if you kick down the road) but the actual money that could otherwise be going elsewhere. Plus poor work ethics, injury concerns... I would prefer a Cousins. Reich's friend, so might not mind coming here. No need to spend assets, a lot less money, and surprisingly did pretty decent after shaky start. They finished 5-3 with him at QB. That to me is a decent bridge - not too expensive, does not require trading assets, yet solid and professional. Then next year hopefully we will draft a real solution.
Hell, I'll go you two more rounds! I wouldn't trade a 7th for this kid. Glittering opportunity and he's done nothing but spend his days in the press, among other places, being eviscerated for not putting the time in. It's almost like an Anti-Tom Brady or something. Seriously, if this is how far he's gotten on talent alone imagine what he could have been with an average amount of NFL level studying etc. When you have to contractually HOLD someone's feet to the fire, to pick up a damn playbook, I say hell no. Shit, for as useless as he is, I'd rather have Fields. At least he had the ear and some kind of respect from his teammates. When one guy is skating by while everyone else is bustin' their asses, and there's no discernible result on the field, resentment builds fast. We already have a clown show, do we have to take it to the next level? No to Murray. Thankfully, he doesn't seem the type of QB that would be in Reich's wheelhouse. Then again, maybe Reich wants the challenge. Who knows. Just for shits and giggles, wouldn't it be the most ANTI-JETS thing EVER if they DID bring in Murray and, somehow, Reich got through to him and we would actually have a FQB for a bit? Whew, my wife just slapped me back to reality! Who the fuck am I kidding, and who slipped that "mickey" in my coffee??? LOL!!
Yes I know QBs make that much, but It's 80 mil guaranteed over two years. You don't give it for someone who does not even have a chance to be a long term answer, and not even that great short term with injuries and work ethics. It's just a total waste IMO. Big name, but a waste. Can Reich get something out of Mariotta, Brissette, Cousins, McKee, Wentz, Davis Mills? Even Mac Jones I would take over Murray. Some of them will require an asset, but hopefully not a big one, and salary is small, so we can use the money saved compared to Murray to get someone in free agency.
FUCK no to Murray AND to Cousins. Fuck them both. I don’t know if guys like Mariotta or Brissett are even available, but I’d take either guy, or Trubisky or Mills even if we have to trade a mid round pick for them, over either Murray or Cousins…I want nothing to do with either of them. Period.
Why don't you like Cousins? It's not like I like the guy either, but the pickings are incredibly slim. He will be released and won't cost an asset. Mariotta, Mitch, same thing. Others will require to give something up. I know back in the day he used us trying to get a better offer from Minny, but it's not an uncommon practice to use another team to raise the price by basically raising their bids, at this point I think it's water under the bridge.
That’s fine if it’s water under the bridge to you, and probably to most. And in any case, none of our current staff (GM, HC, etc.) were here when he played us, so probably a non issue to them as well. Woody I don’t know…he was the one who got used. But for ME, I just don’t forget shit that speaks to the person, to the integrity of the guy. Yes people entertain multiple offers and play them off each other, but he was so blatant and arrogant about it…I remember watching videos he made talking about it. Look, in the end, if I’m a QB, sure I’m choosing pretty much almost anywhere but here (just like I’d choose almost anywhere over shitholes like us, the Browns, the Cardinals, the Raiders…all of these bottom feeder teams are career suicide for a QB), but I sure as shit wouldn’t be releasing videos on it…he took what, $27M over our $30M guaranteed…something like that (per year I believe). Fine…probably the right choice to be honest. But in business it’s a small world. People know each other, people talk, etc. So just keep it to yourself and don’t be a dick about it. Because when you are, many times it comes back to bite you. So for all of it, my take is we’d just be getting an old guy at the end of his rope just coming here for a paycheck. Haven’t we done this to death already? And how has it worked out for us? I say fuck it, and I say fuck Murray as well, but for the different reasons I’ve stated above. But the end result for us is very similar. Neither guy is a real solution. They are both just short term band aids that may get us a few more wins to save a hot seat coach, while taking us further away from a good draft pick…and who knows what the QB prospects will look like next year, but in this year, we ended up with the #2 pick. Some years that’s CJ Stroud or Jayden Daniels. But we are the Jets, so some years it’s Zach Wilson, and THIS year, it’s jack fucking shit. So I don’t think winning a few more games (mind you, not like we’d field a winning team with either guy) to win like 5 maybe 6 games just puts us at draft spot like 8-11 or so…not good enough. They are not answers. And yes, I get that I’m already writing off next year even before the fucking Super Bowl, but when you have an all time terrible HC, holes all over the roster but the biggest one at the most important position and no reasonable answer to the QB problem, yeah, I’m expecting to suck next year.
To expand on this he'll already be 29yo entering what is poised to be another non-contention year for us too. So for all intents and purposes the jets would be taking the flyer on Murray now with an eye on 2027 and beyond. Which in terms of a major running QB threat is starting to reach dinosaur status. Buying in to Murray is basically buying in on his post-prime years of a potential value that never really even materialized. Plus the belief that he'll make a good NFL living mostly just throwing the football going forward. That is a bad bet based almost entirely on wishy washy "name value" logic imo. If he sees a full release that is a different conversation, of course.
Speaking for myself, I don’t like Cousins because he’s old, has a history of not playing well outdoors, and has never accomplished anything other than racking up stats, much of which was late in games down by alot. He also likely carries a high price tag. Oh and he’s a douchebag that shit all over us once already. But mostly, Mitch Trubisky at this point of their careers is basically the same player but at least has some upside to improve, and he’ll be cheap.
We'd still have to circle back around to the most damning question there: Why would a 38yo Kirk Cousins sign here after getting the full release the latest reports are expecting? I mean you can't get any further away from a real expectation of contention right now then the Jets atm. Unless you believe there is literally nobody else out there who will offer him a 2026 starting gig (because it likely only takes one other offer) for Cousins and what he has left in his career it really is a worst case scenario fit here.
There is not any team looking for a 38 year old QB that is expecting to be in contention that I can see. I can see him coming here because apparently him and Reich have a relationship outside of football, something to do with their "faith"
Pittsburgh? I don't think they hired McCarthy to go full rebuild. A return to Minny wouldn't be that crazy at this point either imo. Other then I guess maybe Rodgers they aren't realistically digging up a better QB option this winter then Cousins.
I can see Rogers going back to Pitt for one more year and maybe they take Simpson at 13 as his future replacement. Minny is definitely a possibility, what a mess over there lol, hopefully Reich and Cousins are close enough to get him in.
Pick #44 or either by trade with the 44th pick and another draft choice if their choice may not be available at 44.
Nobody and I mean nobody who watches any college football would in their right mind waste a draft pick on Simpson. He was the 5th or 6th best QB in the CFP behind Mendoza, Chambliss, Beck, Sayin, and then him or Moore. And outside of Mendoza and Chambliss none of those guys has any NFL upside. They all played IU (except Chambliss) and he was the worst of the lot against them.
And Chambliss has NFL upside not even being 6 ft tall and 200lb? It's a 1 QB draft I am afraid, and we are out of luck.
