Eh come on. It's not hard to follow Borat's logic. He's saying that we should reach out to Kubiak, and if he agrees to take the job, then we fire Glenn and hire Kubiak. You can make the argument he wouldn't want to come here, which I disagree with as well, but nobody is saying to fire Glenn and then hope someone wants to come here.
Why pray? I would fire the incompetent head coach and would interview ones I listed trying to get an upgrade. You seem surprised.
That would be ideal case scenario, but honestly I would just fire him either way and take my chances with remaining candidates. But I know Woody didn't / won't do it, so I am suggesting at this point to call Kubiak and if he says he is interested, then fire Glenn.
why weren't we as aggressive as the lions? Gee Idk.... maybe because we suck. Just a thought lol I thought this was about making smart decisions, not just making aggressive ones but maybe not, like I said you are wildly all over and bitching about everything even if its contradictory
Again, you asked what I would do, which is to fire Glenn and do the search. But Woody didn't do it. So I am proposing at this time, considering he does not want to do the search apparently, to call a specific candidate (Kubiak) to see if he is interested, and then if he is, fire Glenn. Hopefully this clarifies.
You'd call his agent not Kubiak. And his agent likely represents many coaches, maybe even Glenn for all we know, and his response would be that is bad business and they are not interested
The problems with this "gut feel" approach are the following: By improvising according to your gut, you are by definition invalidating the model because you're reducing the number of samples the model is based on and thus making its conclusions less valid. If you input your biases into the model by going against it, you can't quantify, track, and measure the model over time. A system with defined variables can be analyzed for shortcomings and improved. And most of these case by case basis things are already accounted for by the models anyway. My primary point was that Glenn had no system at all. How else do you explain kicking a FG on 4th and 1 in your opponent's territory and then going for it on 4th and 8 from your own territory the next drive? That is something Glenn actually did early in the season. Was that a smart decision? What system would recommend kicking on 4th and 1 from opposing territory but going for it on 4th and 8 from your own? I'm not bitching just to bitch. I'm citing specific things I saw from Glenn that convinced me he's not a good coach. If anything, you're defending him for essentially no reason at all. I'm citing 1 out of 10 things I could criticize Glenn for. Let me ask you - why do you think Glenn is a good coach? Because he had a bad QB (that he picked)?
I wouldn't assume that as a starting point because that wasn't the case just a couple weeks ago. Woody COULD HAVE fired this dude at any point, midseason on. He didn't. I've already made my list and talked all this before with others. It's whatever. Can't wait for another year of this.
Fair enough. But you are taking issue with people who say they noticed very early on that Glenn was doing things bad coaches do, right? You're saying they're just bitching to bitch despite them giving concrete examples of the things they noticed that made them pessimistic about Glenn. You're saying people are "making up" that other coaches have systemic approaches to 4th down decisions, despite this being common knowledge for years. I just don't understand dying on this hill when the people making early judgement calls on Glenn were proven unequivocally correct by the end of the season.
Guys, please can we at least try to reason this out for a bit before declaring how logical you all are and others are not. We literally just had reports of like 7 teams contacting Harbaugh after he was let go with only a few openings at that time. Let's stop pretending there are no back channels that exist where at least interest could be gauged. Why are you saying this cannot be done, when it literally just happened IN THIS CYCLE, can you explain? And BA, I am not sure why you are confused. Everyone knows I would fire Glenn and would have already fired, and do a search to try to upgrade. But Woody didn't do that. Which is why I am taking this into consideration, suggesting for him to backchannel now to Kubiak and if there is remote interest, then fire Glenn. Where is the confusion?
You’re trying to pigeon hole the gut feeling approach into an analytics model. But there isn’t an analytics model with that approach. Analytics are great. Coaches should understand them. It doesn’t help if it says a team should convert the 4th and 1 at 65% in a playoff game. If they don’t get it, they’re converting at 0% for that play.
Ok well I don’t have a spreadsheet of everyone choices for coaches hence why I asked. For the record, I think they should’ve fired Glenn and took their chances. I’m just saying that an unintended consequence that may work to our favor is that firing him after next year will put us in a situation where there are less openings and we likely aren’t competing against franchises with big time QB’s that have more desirable landing spots.
Because you also just said you’d fire him now and hope for the best with whatever candidates are remaining. Which of course, is not a good idea.
I would do it, great idea. I just don't see any option being worse than bringing in Wink and Reich to babysit the coaching staff so they don't screw anything up worse. It's sad really, pathetic and hard to even watch happen. If they fired Glenn and paid Kubiak 20 mill a year then brought JL in for DC I would personally drive to Woody's house and give him a reach around.
You know how bad an idea has to be for even Woody to know not do it? I’m sure he’d appreciate the reach around though.
I would, but I would have already fired him on the Sunday the season was over. Woody won't just fire him now since he didn't do it before, but maybe, just maybe, if he got a word Kubiak might actually come here with no other HC openings available for him, he could, that was my point.
