It makes sense, you just don’t agree with it. Would you rather hire the 9th best available option this year or the 2nd best available option next year?
Mougey and Glenn had better find someone to help choose the next assistants otherwise, its gonna be a redux of the blind leading the blind into a dark alley.
Not to mention next year we’ll have four more top 44 picks on the roster, three firsts in the upcoming draft and in theory some free agents or at least money carried over.
It'll be that anyway. They could end up stumbling their way into a great staff, but it's still the two of them leading the franchise at the end of the day.
I hope everyone who thinks we would have brought in a winner this cycle if we fired Aaron Glenn is watching what’s happening in Cleveland. A third candidate withdrew their name from the head coaching search (Udinsko, back to Jax as the OC). You’re looking at what would’ve happened if we were also in the pool.
That's wasn't the part I was referring to, I thought BA said good candidates won't come here even if there is no other NFL offer. Then this vs next year won't make any difference. As far as the opening, yeah, there are a lot this year, but some of these openings are filled with additional candidates that became available by creating these openings, like Harbaugh and Stefanski. Effectively 7 new HC required. It looks like two of them will be filled with Saleh and MILF, guys we were not getting anyway due to shit history with them. As of now there 4 spots left (will be 3 as reports are Cardinals might get MILF), and the only opening that was filled by an offensive guy who was not a HC last year is Pitts by McCarthy. I listed earlier bunch of guys who are still available who could be good. Obviously the Bills are going to get their pick (maybe Daboll, but who knows), but are we sure Kubiak would prefer the Raiders/Browns over the Jets for example? Then this coach would get to make these 4 premium picks plus have 3 1st next year.
That's exactly what my point was though! Then what's the difference to try this vs next year?! We are stuck with Glenn forever then? Also, same point you made to me about the DC candidate from Miami applies here as well, are you sure maybe there were other reasons he moved on, like Browns indicated they wanted someone else, or something that Browns could have done that the Jets maybe wouldn't? I think there are good candidates still available that would have taken the job.
Because next year looks a whole lot different than this year: And I’m gonna venture to guess that THREE candidates telling a team “thanks but no thanks” is a reflection on the team and not coincidence.
Glenn has made more turnovers on the staff than the Jets defense forced all year. Great time to be a Jets fan.
Browns aside, the DC candidates that are not taking interviews with the Jets could be doing this largely because Glenn is proven historically bad lame duck coach though, likely to be fired in a year. It would have been more attractive with a new head coach for the assistants. It just feels like we are burning a year with Glenn here.
This is the biggest reason, I would think. The Browns are also possibly getting turned down by candidates based on the "homework" that the candidates are being given to do prior to the interviews.
…but who is taking this HC job?! Around in circles we go. here’s the bottom line: if we fired a guy after one year knowing full well he wasn’t going to have a quarterback unless a dart throw nailed the bullseye, you’re setting the precedent for whoever takes the job next to succeed immediately or they get fired. If you sell them on three first round draft picks there’s a chance they may never see them because you’ve basically said go figure it out without a quarterback and if you don’t, you’re gone. And that’s just one year of ill will… tack on the last decade and you have a situation where nobody is going to take your job until there’s an ounce of stability shown. See: the Browns. And I would argue we’ve been a far bigger trainwreck the last few years than them.
literally my exact thoughts. And it’s kinda weird to give Glenn so much heat with a bad roster, a reclamation project at QB which failed, trading your two best defensive players and fielding in essence a PS defense, and starting a UDFA at QB for like 5 games. Does anyone think any coach would succeed under those circumstances?
This part is silly, this is suggesting that if Glenn had picked a decent QB that he would have been OK enough we wouldn't be complaining and that's just ridiculous. Arguments like that are Swiss cheese, it was so much more than Justin Fields that Glenn failed at and you know it. He was historically bad all season, broke tons of records of ineptitude. He's a terrible coach, there is no reason to think the next HC wouldn't come here because he thought if he doesn't nail a FA QB he will be fired. I expect better of you BA.
Woody is not known for pulling the trigger too early though. There is no precedent. I think everyone understands if you have the worst season in team's history by several metrics and in general historically bad season you could be fired from any team. In fact there are reports that suggest many are surprised Glenn wasn't fired after a historically bad year: https://x.com/BoyGreen25/status/2015096449936003118 It's completely normal and even expected to fire someone who has a historically bad year after one season and does not set any negative precedent.
Yes, that's exactly what it's suggesting because it's true. If we had even average QB play we're probably sitting at 5 or 6 wins and everyone is saying "well that's what I expected with this roster". To pretend like there's NO difference between where we are now and where we would be if we had a QB that hit open receivers even half the time they were open is very disingenuous and is probably heavily swayed by your dislike for Glenn.
Calling BS on this, 5 or 6 wins with the way Glenn handled staff and game management and we ALL would still be complaining, I know I would. Get off the amount of wins, that's just a number, you act as if we don't have eyes.
He started friggen Brady Cook 5 games. He was tanking, actively trying to lose. The team traded their two best defenders halfway through the season. Most coaches don't win those games. What does it tell any legitimate candidate that a team owner signs off on tanking but then fires the coach? We are a disaster of a franchise. To think that firing Glenn erases a decade of disfunction if not more is wishful thinking and again, swayed by your dislike of Glenn.
