And there likely won't be because it's not something that has ever been confirmed even when the Colts sold their whole team for Andrew Luck. It's fine that you don't believe it because your opinion is usually irrelevant to me anyway.
I'd be shocked if Woody has ever mandated a tank. The guy is completely incapable of thinking ahead and we screw up our draft position with meaningless wins late in the season every year.
Deciding to tank a season isn't some higher level of thinking, it's mostly what loser organizations do. I'm sure there is a team here and there that has tanked a few games at the end of a season (Pats) but remain largely competitive. Then there are the Jets and their perpetual first round QB ritual every 3-4 years and you're telling me that Woody Johnson wouldn't walk into the HC's office and tell him he wants QB X even if we have to lose every game left on the schedule? That's not some kind of elevated planning here, it's also what occurs to morons. As far as the second part of that sentence, you're smart enough to reason that part of for yourself.
You stated a conspiracy theory, ignored the points that contradicted it (like firing Gregg when he helped the tank, etc), and then doubled down because disproving and not admitting the conspiracy is ... part of the conspiracy. Why would I or anyone else who is not into baseless conspiracy theories without evidence would believe this? As far as my opinion being irrelevant to you, I am not asking you to read my posts. You just stated something pretty bizarre, I found something that contradicted and asked to provide anything that supports, and you didn't. You can now move on to reading relevant opinions.
so true. Tanking is what a loser does. It’s totally on brand for Woody Johnson. It’s exactly what someone lets his teenage son pick players would do. it’s not “smart” idk why people think Woody is not smart enough to try the lazy shortcut gimmick route that everyone always talks about lol . Lazy shortcut gimmicks are made for losers like Woody Johnson.
100%. Tanking is a smart strategy. And this 2020 season is a perfect example. Jags literally benched Minshew for some pathetic scrub we have never heard of since in name of "QB competition". While we fired the DC who just saved our tank and the #1 spot by miraculous fuck up to allow the Raiders to win last minute. This should have been the alarm bell to take the tank more seriously and not only keep Gregg, but to give James Morgan a shot to play a few games to ensure a tank. But Woody was just too dumb. And granted TL did not turn out like everyone thought, he is still a solid young QB, and way better than what we ever had. Certainly good enough to attract a decent coach. But Woody is just too dumb, too fucking dumb.
I think we got the "Losers" role dialed in pretty good. IF Woody ordered the tank, that means he's starting to feel the pressure from decades of losing under his ownership. I think tanking, while not being the optimum way to build a roster, has its advantages when it comes to getting a top tier QB by any means necessary. Worked for JAX...
And btw, it's not like Khan is some great owner. It's the same guy that hired Urban Meyer after all. But he makes SOME good decisions. Like to actually tank when there is a chance to get a good QB or try a successful OC. Woody seems to make a wrong decision EVERY time.
It would be hilarious if both the Patriots and Bills tanked these last two games just to f up the Jets draft position.
Don't take too much from that, his boss in LA vs here are night and day apart. Sean McVay would run a great offense with a cardboard cutout as an OC. I agree that LaFleur is good, but he would have continued to suck here, because he didn't have the right HC.
Why is that? I don't believe that. The Patsies stunk last year. They were worse than us. Couldn't protect their rookie QB for nuts, had no useful offense whatsoever, their RB fumbled all over the place. Couldn't even tank right - won the last game of the year to drop from the 1st overall to the 4th overall pick. I was getting set to crow about our not being the doormats of the division any more. Yet Vrabel has turned it around in six months. I don't think that is coincidence. As far as upgrading the talent - most of that is actually Vrabel. He didn't come in without final personnel control, we know that. The guy who was already there (Ron Wolf's nepo-baby) is the same guy who drafted all those bust players for the last three years. And look at the people he's picked up. Diggs - 30 year old diva me-first WR coming off an ACL injury, usually a bad idea. Mack Hollins is on his _sixth_ team in eight years, hardly a sure thing, but he was with McDaniels in Vegas. Spillane - fourth team in the NFL, but he was with Vrabel in Tennessee (and also McDaniels in Vegas). Milton Williams was a talented stud, but he wasn't good enough to even be a regular started on the Eagles DL - they used him as a rotational player and spot starter only - and the contract was widely seen as an overpay that bad teams have to do in order to attract talent. And he's been out on IR for seven weeks and the Patsies are 6-1 in that period. I believe the top HCs don't win by scheme. They win by getting the right people in the room, creating accountability, and only then setting up the right scheme with the right coaches. I couldn't care less about Xs and Os, that is a property of the coaching, not the be-all and end-all. That's why teams with good coaches get more out of JAGs and castoffs. The same offensive linemen who stunk last year for the Patsies are suddenly protecting much better (even after they lost their #1 pick stud LT to IR, they haven't missed a beat). Drake Maye isn't playing on special teams, yet the Patsies ST units are better this year than last. If that's not because of the coaching, I don't know what caused it.
This kind of scenario would also fit very neatly with the way Jets head coaches get that numb look on their faces at some point during the season. I would have to look over film of many losing Jets seasons to see if there is a real correlation there, and I am not prepared to spend my limited time on earth doing that... but at some point every Jets head coach gets 'that' look on their face on the sidelines.
It’s also week to week game plans putting the players in the right position. The Jets linebackers are atrocious and the safeties are subpar as well. The Pats decided to attack the middle of the field all game and throw wheel routes to Rhamondre. It’s less a “scheme” thing and more so maximizing the players individual strengths.
This reminds me of something the Belichick Pats did. Everyone always talks about how they never really had prototypical receivers other than Moss during Brady's tenure there - but Bill wasn't looking for the types of receivers most teams were. Bill cared about one thing with receivers - short area change of direction. They didn't have to be tall, they didn't have to be fast in a top speed sense, they just had to create brief windows of separation because Bill knew Brady would get them the ball in the perfect spot during those windows more often than not. Amendola and Edelman are perfect examples of this archetype along with Welker to a slightly lesser degree. This led to them being able to save quite a bit of money in a position group that is otherwise usually expensive. Gronk was a more affordable way to still have that down the field receiving threat, mostly in the middle of the field. I can't imagine any of our recent coaches thinking with this level of nuance. We just don't hire particularly smart guys. Woody is too infatuated with the rah rah types.
or the right Qb, you could of seen while he was here his plays were creative, not his fault Zack Wilson couldn't execute them.
