I can stay onboard with Mougey as GM, he’s done a solid job as far as I’m concerned. But when you look at this team under Glenn and co, every player with the exception of Breece Hall has declined. Quincy Williams was an all pro, how has his play declined so much to being benched? Sherwood was a promising player on the upswing. Now he’s a major liability. Even Sauce and Quinnen were playing below their means before we traded them. We now have a season under our belt and we have trended downward in every facet. We can’t put these precious upcoming draft picks into the hands of this coaching staff. These next two drafts are going to shape this team. If we fail these players with shitty leadership and poor coaching we are going to be setback for at least another 5 year to a decade trying to recover. We MUST move now and bring someone experienced and competent in the building this offseason. It is imperative Woody wakes up immediately
I feel like I'm defending the guy, but these complaints are just not reality. Saying this with it painfully obvious the defense is worse than last year, only looking at the defense as that's your main topic here. Saleh is a better D coordinator than Glenn is or was. Glenn, in my opinion, showed he's a better head coach. I know about 80 percent of this user base just had a stroke reading that, but that's my take. Glenn could suck too in the end, but he looked more like a HC than Saleh ever did and I still contend they played better in close games this season than the previous 4. But to your point, the real gripe here is the players you picked: Quincy - Quincy sucked and Saleh got the best out of him for 2 years, not the other way around where Quincy has had this great year and all of a sudden sucks. He has sucked for 5 of the 7 years he has been in the league. I'm not arguing Saleh is not a better D coordinator because he is. But let's not pretend Quincy is this lock in good player. It's been will documented he struggled with the playback and playing slow. Sherwood - he's always sucked and it was a terrible extension. If you really thought he's a good player, you do you. He's doing exactly the same thing he's done for a few years, get a lot of tackles while be thrown around like a rag doll 3/4 of the game. Quinnen - he didn't want to play here. How is that on the coach? Again, I know folks here think other head coaches have these magic wands to make problems like this go away, but they don't. He wanted out as soon as Rodgers was cut, asked for a trade and dogged it. I can't blame him for any of it and I wish him luck. Sauce - Sauce regressed so much we got 2 first round picks for him! And I'd like you to show where... because according for stats before he left and got injured I don't think he allowed more than 2 catches to a single receiver all year and had an elite coverage rating. He's never gotten picks and gets injured if he tackles someone, this is Sauce from day 1. The team has looked like dog shit for a month, just say that. It's brutal to come here and just everyone bitch about everything being broken and it's solely on Glenn and the coaches. You need to hold players and situations accountable. Making stuff up, or blaming Glenn because its 5 degrees outside is brutal. The jets do not have an nfl roster.
You are out of your mind. How can you not see how much Glenn is in over his head? You can debate talent of players all you want, there is no doubt they are almost all playing at the lowest they ever have. The entire team has declined. You really want this guy coaching a potential franchise young QB? You really trust this guy to do something historic and turn this around? You realize the history of coaches that start this poorly? I don’t give a shit whether he deserves another year, I give a shit what’s right for the Jets. This guy has to go after next week.
I never said he wasn't, but he's better then our last 2 he's coaches no matter how low that bar is. You're so focused on killing Glenn that your not seeing the bigger issue, this team is not an nfl caliber roster on multiple positions. No players that are leaders. We went from Aaron Rodgers to Brady Cook. No crap the offense regressed. You can keep firing coaches it's not going to change anything.
I agree with both excerpts. I vote keep Glenn one more year, and don't draft a QB until they year after. Not being anywhere near sold on any of the QBs coming out this year is the kicker. We should trade down this year to pick up more picks, and give Glenn/Mougey a free hand to sign the best FA QB they can on a deal that we can get out of cleanly in no more than 2 years. If they show they can do the job, they get to draft a QB in 27 along with contract extensions. If not, a new HC and possibly a new GM get to come in with no threat of an imminent hot seat.
Sorry dude…I have NO idea what in the world you’d be looking at to conclude that Glenn is a better HC than Saleh. What exactly has Glenn shown you to say he’s any good at all? The team is worse in just about every way other than our kicker, punter, and return teams. That’s it. He has shown terrible personnel evaluation in choosing Fields and Wilks. He has shown terrible coaching in leading an already bad Fields to literally his worst season ever. Embarrassing losses with so many blowouts. Penalties still suck. I am giving him no fucking break on the roster…yes it’s bad…we all knew it. But he’s making these players all worse…I still maintain that while bad, this roster was not 0-7 bad. And I also give no credit to him for trading away Sauce and Q…those were his decisions as much as anyone’s. And yes, Quinnen not wanting to be here is a HUGE mark on Glenn. OF COURSE we can blame that on the coach. He’s the guy who sets the tone, the culture, the message, right? Q saw right through it and wanted no part of it…he saw Glenn come in and talk big and get rid of AR and Adams and said yeah I’m out. Why? He wanted to win. And he knew this wasn’t going to win. Of Course that’s on Glenn. And Quincy and Sherwood both looked better under Salah and his system…they looked worse under Glenn and Wilks…how is that not coaching? I agree the roster isn’t great…I agree this is not a playoff team, not with the shit QB play we have gotten this year from AG’s chosen guy first and then a bunch of scrubs when even he finally gave up on Fields and saw he was unplayable. But this also wasn’t a 3-14 team losing by 20 points all the time either. He lost the team a month or two ago. And when a coach loses the team, I think it’s damn hard to get it back.
The best part about the disconnected front office and ownership is that I think most hardcore Jets fans are perfectly ok with not trading up even if that means not getting a QB this year. Building the roster out, bringing in some stop gaps and/or a mid round pick is acceptable. A real stopgap, not a Justin Fields. But the Jets staff and ownership and front office are almost definitely going to try to make a splashy move whether it’s trading up for a QB or trading for a vet no one wants because they are trying to sell the fan base (on something they don’t want).
Agree, except the part where the fan base does not want it. The fan base, not the owner is the Jets biggest issue. The fan base will buy whatever the owner sells them. They will even buy completely disastrous seasons. If the Jets have not lost their fanbase by now, then they never will.
5 year to a decade to recover!?! Where are you getting this? The Jets have averaged 6 wins a season for the past 55 years. It should only take 1 year for the Jets to recover.
The thing is this draft as a whole isn’t very good. It’s actually one of the worst ones this decade talent wise. So, I’m fine with just going BPA because every position we have could be better (except LT/RT). Here’s the thing how can we trust this staffs big board is the question. Glenn and Moug have shown nothing last draft that was a great eye for talent pick. In fact they whiffed on a bunch of picks in my opinion. 2027 is a different story that draft is going to be absolutely stacked
Keep Glenn. We draft a QB next year. We can’t hire a decent DC since Glenn has zero stability as a HC. Go into next year and D is still in shambles and because literally every player on our team has regressed under Glenn, you can expect the QB we draft to probably struggle. Say by the end of the 2026 season it’s finally clear to even the incredibly blind supporters that we need to fire Glenn. Now you hire a new HC who may or may not want the QB we drafted, but gives him a shot because that’s gonna come with taking the job (which of course will severely diminish the coaching pool) After year 2 (new HC’s 1st year) the QB still struggles. New coach suddenly finds himself in a must win situation and lobbies for a FA bridge type guy. Our next McCown. We waste 2 years with that. That’s 4 years right there. Then we’re drafting a QB again and hoping after 3 years he’s the guy. Now we’re 7 years in. We need to hit on a QB and we need the right coaches to coach the kid. Aaron Glenn is not the right coach.
The only DC we’re bringing is probably already on our coaching staff. What respectable DC is coming to coach under Glenn who’s already firmly planted in the hot seat?
