woody needs to fuck off and go away. let someone who can actually run something run it. he loves these new coaches with no pedigree and it just isnt going to work at the jets. ownership is inept.
I think it is all but certain he gets a pass on 2025 - if hte Jets are just as bad in 2026 (and I see no reason they won't be) then I think he will be replaced (with another first time HC no doubt) - I just hope they don't blow a ton of draft capital trading up to get the second best QB on the board (again).
This is not 2021 when it was Trevor Lawrence and then everyone else. Though it could be if Dante Moore does not declare. But I think he will, and this is more like Bryce Young/ CJ Stroud draft. One is a bit ahead of the other but really Moore can end up better than Mendoza. I would actually pick him as #1, even though Mendoza is the consensus now. Second best in this draft may not be a bad thing.
Please. They won the Super Bowl in 2001 while scoring three offensive touchdowns throughout the entire playoffs. 2003 and 2004 teams were absolute defensive wagons. And they won the SB in 2018 by holding Sean McVay's offense to THREE POINTS. I hate the sniveling weasel, and he's had his luck (Brady, Tuck Rule, no suspension after spygate/deflategate, Dan Quinn coaching like an idiot, Pete Carroll coaching like an idiot) but give credit where credit is due. And you can look around the league and find excellent quarterbacks who didn't win jack because they didn't have the right coaches. Just ask Dan Marino if he would have liked to have Belichick as a coach.
I voted should not be fired and will not be fired. What's another year amongst debacles? I mean friends.
I continue to be intrigued by the Patsies firing Mayo after one year in virtually the identical situation to AG (except they did have Maye, but even so last year he was far from a sure thing, and the team sucked). It has to be the case that if the right coach is available, or leadership has a strong feeling about a particular coach, that they don't let this continue for another year "just to give AG a chance". I want to be right, not fair or consistent. Then there's this...
I actually think this is quite an interesting year to have one of the top two picks. It's clearly not 2021. The second QBs picked in the 2023, 2024 and 2025 drafts all turned out to be pretty damn good. We can't let the bad experience of 2021 taint our strategy. Pick QBs high and often!!
I did give him credit, I said he was a good defensive coach. But I don't think they even make play-offs in 2001 without Brady. They were 0-2 with Bledsoe, then of course it's the Jets that take him out and Brady wins 14 of next 17. I am not saying they didn't need defense just because Brady was there. Belichick was a good coach. But without Brady he is not some legend, there is plenty of body of work without him, and there is also older and diminished Brady without Belichick with another coach, and the record speaks for itself. All of the sudden Arians looks like Belichick and Belichick looks like Ariens when Brady switched.
I didn't mean so much the 2nd QB taken (who may end up being the best QB) rather always not getting the guy that the team really wanted: 2009 - wanted Stafford - got Sanchez 2018 - wanted Mayfield - got Darnold 2021 - wanted Lawrence - got Wilson one of the big problems the Jets have had is the inability to ever be as bad as they need to be to get the player they really wanted.
Yeah, I mean two play-off seasons out of five with 2 play-off wins is nice and all, but to serve as a model franchise, and on top of it to model after their DEFENSE, even though any success they had, however short lived, was on offense... It's just some surreal shit when you think about it. Also, given the year Glenn just had, if he does not get fired, which he should, at the very least he is on a hot seat. And typically people on a hot seat make short sighted moves since they know they may not have another year. For example, say we do trade up for #1 and have a shot at Mendoza and Moore, and think Moore has significantly higher ceiling and better long term prospect, but Mendoza is more ready to play now. We would then draft Mendoza, just because we think he can start right away, while Moore needs more seasoning and cannot help as much next year. This is just an example where if you think someone's seat is hot, better be a year too early and move on than a year too late.
That is the #1 reason why Glenn should be fired now. Glenn is now in survival mode so his moves and decision making will be short sighted, while the Jets are set up here for a long term play with the draft picks. My fear is Glenn will be willing to do whatever it takes to get a QB now if the Jets don't get one in the draft. There is no reason to bring Glenn back other than the money. If the Jets start off say 1-7 next year, he will be fired mid season. Just get it done and move on now.
But wait, Campbell started slow too in his second year, and look at the turnaround! I have a feeling if Woody keeps Glenn this year, Glenn will find a way to fool him again for the next year too. Maybe win a few meaningless games at the end and say something like, see Detroit also didn't make play-offs second year, but showed progress. Woody is stupid enough to fall for that too. He set the bar so low... I mean Bob with much shittier roster did better. And Bob sucked! For every unicorn like Campbell (and btw, let's see how Detroit does going forward without Ben Johnson - so far they are not off to a great start) there are numerous epic failures.
Glenn isn't going anywhere. That said, he better start showing results next season or he'll be firmly on the hot seat. I've said it on here many times before and I'll say it again: Not all candidates are the same just like in any industry/field, and until they start shooting for the stars and out paying for the top candidates (Ben Johnson, Sean Payton, etc), they will continue this failing circle jerk. It happened in Denver, Chicago, and New England in short order. Get an elite head coach and we'll contend within 2 seasons.
Man, 2009 was long time ago. But we were #17 then, trading up to #5 specifically for Sanchez. Sure, Stafford was a consensus #1, but wasn't even close to being in the cards for us. We won 9 games, Detroit won 0. In 2018 we wanted Sam. Baker was discussed more since the assumption was Sam was going #1 and he was the second choice. That changed on the day of the draft. So, surprisingly we actually got our top guy. And we were all ecstatic back then. And Sam was a good guy, too bad the Jets, and most of all JD failed him. 2021, yeah, that's when we definitely had to tank, like the Jags did, but we didn't. I just heard a podcast by Connor Hughes, where he mentioned Gase was trying to win a game to specifically avoid giving the Jets' next coach Lawrence. I am listing this below. This is yet another reason where you just don't keep a coach, like Glenn, on a hot seat like that. Just get rid of him. But yes that year everyone wanted Lawrence of course. Depending on whether Moore declares, by the time draft rolls, more people may want him, including us, and he seems as good or better than Mendoza.
Amen, it is paramount. Glenn is bad because he is not ready even thought ego driven arrogrance belies it... What a fool...ust look in the mirror Arron, you'll see a loser just like the last three HC for the JETS. Fire his ass but I know Woody doesn't have the balls....
I think Woody will surprise us all and fire Glenn. If this actually happens who is out there for potential candidates? personally I’d go all in on Harbaugh/Tomlin/Steichen if one of them gets let go as my top choice but I doubt that happens. Realistically, I like Kingsbury, Kubiak and Lombardi. McCarthy is also a possibility but many think he’s burned out. A guy I like but I feel is an outlier is Klayton Adams because of his lack of experience.
