Agreed. The trades were the only positive to the season. The one with the Colts especially is looking like one of the all-time most lopsided trades the league has ever seen, regardless of what we end up doing with those draft picks. The rest of it has been nothing short of a debacle of the highest order, surpassing even my lowest of low expectations for the Jets. In a season that was supposed to be about improvement, laying the foundation, and starting to move things in the right direction (even if only incrementally), the situation has gone in the entire opposite direction and we've begun digging ourselves a hole that might take several more years to get out of and back to the point we were before the season began. The 2025 season has, quite literally, been a waste of time for the franchise.
The Jets are so lucky that the NFL doesn't have relegation like pretty much all soccer leagues have so even when you have losing seasons over and over and over again there are no real consequences.
When I said the team wouldn't win more than 4 games this season I wasn't expecting it to be this bad. How they managed 3 wins is truly beyond me. This current team doesn't belong in the NFL. Maybe Canada? XFL? REPEATING, this is NOT an NFL caliber football team. Full stop.
Where do we begin? How about the CS and HC. Inexperience is the main flaw here. Its the biggest reason why the staff isn't effective. Its more like the blind leading the blind. Mougey is the only one in the bldg. with any prior managerial experience and it shows. Glenn was not ready for the HC job and his hires reflect that. His entire staff is new to their jobs except for Wilks who sucked at his. That situation was enough to doom the season. Factor in the lack of talent and frankly, its a miracle they won 3 games.
He really said that? Those are the words of a man trying to get himself fired. He’ll get paid regardless with no headaches.
Actually, I think Mooge proves the opposite point as far as experience. He has never been a GM before, just like Glenn a HC. And yet while he also made mistakes, he looks competent. It's not about the experience. Liam Coen, who not only didn't have any HC experience, had 1 year play calling experience, and his DC had 0, just whooped Denver to win his 11th game. Trevor Lawrence is actually improving under him too. It's not about the experience, it's about competence. Glenn is simply not a competent HC, and frankly even as a DC he had a lot to prove: he had one good year and three shitty years as a DC. That's not a good record. But we gave him a chance, and he failed as simple as that. Not because he was a new HC, but because he is not a competent HC. It's time to move on. Kraft just did it in the identical scenario and is reaping the rewards. Too bad Woody is too dumb to do what works.
Anyway you slice it, without a massive influx of talent on both sides of the ball, Glenn's tenure is doomed... They REALLY need to pass on any idea of a trade up. In fact, trading down for more picks might be the better option.
As has been asked.. Fire Glenn and then what? Who takes this job? Who does the hiring? Remember the reputation of both the organization and its Owner. This is the team and job of last resort. What established HC would come here and work for Woody? How many HC candidates declined interviews for the Jet HC job? I don't think this is a job for inexperienced HC candidates. Just way too much pressure and outsized expectations. Not every player can play here. Not every coach can coach here either.
I’ll try to find the clip tomorrow but yes. He said something to the effect of wanting to focus on the entire team. He referenced being a first time head coach.
Again, not anointing anyone in the coaching staff. Lots of people sure are dismissing them already, which is just as bad. Half the Jets roster should not be in the nfl. We have 1 ok rookie safety, zero linebackers, the D line has no standouts and maybe 2 starters. On offense 2 of their 3 best receivers didn't start the year on the team and the worst qb play in the 15 years this team has sucked. You're really going for Freudian level of logic if you think we're able to really grade the HC at such a poor level that he is firable. After 14 weeks.
I did mention the talent gap as a major factor. The total situation was doomed to failure this year. Maybe next year things turn around but I would say Glenn's rope has gotten shorter. One thing is certain, next year cannot be a redux of '25 or it won't end well for the CS. Woody is gonna Woody.
I do not want to use lack of talent as an excuse. With Bob the same exact defense we had plus JFM/Huff was top 10 in the NFL. Even without them and also without JJ this defense was #3 in yards and #20 in scoring. This year even with JJ back, even before the trades we were #20 in yards and #27 in scoring. Sure, we can improve the talent, but we are not as bereft of talent as Glenn made us look like. Vrabel had 8 starters on defense who were cuts, signed two guys, and one high draft pick. And his defense is #6. A lot of it is schematics and coaching in general. Something we are at disadvantage against pretty much every team.
The fact of the matter is, they DON'T lack enough talent to excuse having such a terrible season. Many of the players who have completely disappeared this year were, under Robert Saleh, performing at an All Pro level. Quinnen Williams is the smoking gun: A 3 time Pro Bowler who suddenly looked completely washed up under Glenn, within a week of being traded to the Cowboys, is back to his previous form...and the Cowboys are not even that good this year! This team is not the most talented in the league, that's for damn sure, and there are a lot of holes to fill. But that's not the problem here; it's the coaching. The game planning is so atrociously bad that it completely cancels out any talent that the team may have. At this point, even with Brady or Manning in their prime at QB, I couldn't see this team winning more than 5 or 6 games, and even with the 85 Bears or 02 Bucs defense, I don't think they'd even be in the top 20. The expectations for this team were low and they STILL failed reach them! That's on the coaches, not the players.
Woody is a bad owner because he makes stupid decisions when hiring people. But for these people he hires he is not a bad owner. He does not have reputation to be cheap like Cincy or some others. He spends the money. He allows people to make decisions they want. The meddling part is grossly overrated. Can you blame the owner for meddling if a GM cannot show any results in 6 years? Granted he should have fired the GM earlier, but that only proves my point. He gives his people a long leash. Bob had 4th year, even though always failed. Gase got two years, even though he was one of the worst coaches in NFL history. That was a year too long. Bowles got 4 years with 0 play-offs. Rex had 6 years, 4 without play-offs. Mangini got 3 years. He did make play-offs 1st year, but got blown out and no play-offs the next two. Edwards got 5 years. Compare that to Kraft, who got rid of HOF coach who won him 6 SBs after missing play-offs for two years and a franchise legend Mayo after 1 year. This point is, for the actual people Woody hires, Woody is good and pretty easy to fool, plus he is willing to spend. As far as who will hire, Mooge is here. He and Spielman can lead the search, without Tanny this time hopefully, who seems to have lost it. I posted Jake Asman debate with him before, where Tanny appears to have dropped off a cliff intellectually. Now one problem is that we do not have a QB, which is a huge negative for the coaches. Which is why the tank is so critical. If we are able to get a pick which can draft Mendoza or Moore or in the range where we can trade to get them, this situation here will be fairly attractive.
Yeah man. This defense was competitive last year. It’s been dreadful all year and that includes before the Sauce/Q trade.
