As I am down with Covid living alone in my Indy apartment, I wanted to pose this question to you and myself. We have Glenn as head coach which is not an offensive minded coach. We have 16 years of play off draught. Our Offensive Coordinator is not great but he is not terrible either. We have tons of good picks coming up. Given all this, I don't know if I trust Glenn to groom a rookie QB. I feel like we will botch it again. Given the urgency of not being the laughingstock of entire professional sports with our longest play off draught, I say pick a veteran QB, use picks to pick studs and target play offs. What says you?
you cannot have sustained success without a top 10 level QB - I am happy to pick up a vet and actually compete but only ONCE we have our future franchise QB on the roster. Get well soon.
It’s a nuanced situation. But there’s not a lot of great options out there for the Jets. Not that there ever is, but you’re generally going to look for a young player who underperformed draft position with a good arm. I’d like Kyler if he didn’t come with all the alleged attitude problems. He was flagged with those when he came out of college too and seemed a bit standoffish. Now he has the video game clause that they wanted to put in his contract where he couldn’t play Call of Duty as much as he does. His contract situation is fine. The majority of the guaranteed money is gone so it’s a big base deal but it’s a year by year thing without much repercussions if you cut him. I also doubt Arizona demands much. Maybe they ship picks out with him to get rid of him aka Browns & Brock Osweiler? Maybe the benching will humble him? Sam Howell + late first/second round draft pick is still my choice. The rest of the options are relatively garbage.
I would hate Murray here…I don’t think he’s very good at all and especially if he also brings a bad attitude…I’d rather find other options, and I say that knowing that there aren’t very many good options there regardless
I am down with Kyler. A change of scenery might do him good actually. His injuries are concerning though. What do you think of Mac Jones? He worked with Saban, Bellichick and now under Shanahan's tutelage. I don't mind signing him to a 3 or 4 year deal actually. But I don't know QB position enough to say he is the guy I want to tie my next 3-4 years to.
I say no to both Murray and Mac Jones Murray I just don’t think is any good, he’s tiny, not sure if all the talk about his work ethic and attitude are real but where there’s smoke there’s fire and that is a kind of bad apple we don’t need on a young team especially with a new rookie hard ass HC…but in the end, I just don’t like him as a player. Mac Jones forgets about it…his success now is 100% on Shanahan as that coach seemingly can make any QB look good…guarantee he will come nowhere close to that success here, though I could see Woody thinking he would. Plus I also hear just too much noise that the guy is a dick. Normally I don’t care too much for rumor stuff like this, but on a young team, with a new HC and especially with a new HC who is trying to be a hard ass but not winning, those types of personalities just create problems sooner rather than later…shit, AG didn’t even want a HOF’er like Rodgers around to challenge him… Neither of those guys are anywhere near good enough to overlook these behavior/personallity issues…shit, I just can’t even imagine how bad Murray has to be if they wanted to put a clause in his contract about his work ethic
I’m out on Mac Jones. He’s too physically limited and his arm strength struggles in the Northeast when November and December come around. I’m team Howell or possibly Kyler. I’m not sure if it’s allowed but I’d almost make sure Glenn can talk with him and make sure he’s not going to be a lazy douche.
Hard no to Kyler. He IS a lazy douche…so much so that the team tried to build a clause into his contract…that’s unheard of, so outside of any rumor type talk, you KNOW it’s real. Stay the fuck away. Plus he sucks, so there’s that! We are looking for a guy to turn around a long downtrodden franchise…he already failed at that in Arizona and there are no signs he’d be able to succeed here.
Perhaps you might want to dodge those sketchy Airline Stewardesses Brook! J/K man.. Get well soon. You might be the last guy to catch covid in the Western hemisphere. LOL Seriously though, the NFL revolves around the QB, No two ways about it as the day of the Raven shutdown D is over and the onus is on points. Maybe Glenn brings in McCown as the new QB whisperer. The current QBC seems to be useless as Fields has not improved one iota. Glenn doesn't groom the QB. Glenn doesn't call the plays nor does he run the defense. His staff does that so let's put the onus where it belongs. I would have felt better if our scouting dept. had been overhauled but it is what it is so.. I'm hoping for the best, but I am prepared for the worst as well..
He objectively does not suck man. He has a 2:1 TD:INT ratio in his career with another 32 scores on the ground. He’s a career 67% passer. He averagely accounts for 271 yards per game for his career. This is all while probably playing in the toughest division in the league over the past 6 years. They were a team on the rise after getting better every year with him and Kingsbury. They started off 3-6 with three one score losses in 2022. Then he got hurt and the wheels fell off. I’m with it for the lazy douche angle. Because it’s hard to ignore that smoke. But saying he sucks is meh.
I'm pretty out on Kyler and in no way does he strike me as an Aaron Glenn type of player. Ability and production has been there at times, but too much smoke about attitude and effort-related issues and now an underwhelming year. Obviously I get the doubt about the ability of the Jets to select and develop a QB because the last few regimes were not able to. But in the vast majority of situations, that's the way to success in the NFL. So doubts or not, this is what they need to do in the coming draft (and/or the 27' draft). None of the potential free agents or trade options yell potential to be some of those outlier cases where a non-drafted player becomes the QB they need.
Thanks grandpa C. Apparently these are the new variants. Had to fly for business a lot and had to visit son in Nashville too so probably happened somewhere along the way. Read more here and please be careful boss. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rv3y9jnryo About football. Yes without a QB you don't have long term sustained success. But we have been in the gutter so long, I am OK with a make shift QB as long as we can win enough games to get ourselves into the playoffs. I really have super low expectations now. I don't think we will ever groom a QB properly. If that's the case, let's change the strategy. That's all I am saying.
You are right on lazy douche part. But wrong on he sucks. He is a damn good QB when he plays. His injuries are a concern for me regarding on field. Off the field he will require a short leash for sure. But I am willing to take a gamble on him.
Supposedly the 2026 NFL Draft is loaded with QB prospects. That's the way to go UNLESS they can pull off a blockbuster trade for Lawrence or Burrow. Burrow would be a dream come true.
If we could get him cheap, ie not blowing the picks we just got, I’d be down with Murray. If he can resurrect his career like Sam or Baker were gold. If not, he’s a bridge to 2027.
from what I can see if they cut him it would be $57m of dead cap next year for the Cards (or they have to pay him $53m) so if they do want to move on they should be grateful to anyone that offers to just eat the contract! It doesn't look too bad if they cut him after 2026 (just $7m dead cap) but not much point in bringing in someone for one year to pay them $53m unless you really believe they can be a true FQB
Sorry guys…I’ll grant you that Murray’s stats aren’t “suck” quality, but I still want nothing to do with him I just don’t like the player…can’t have a QB, the supposed leader of the team, be that kind of guy…he’s like the complete opposite of Brady… Brady ate, slept, and lived football and demanded that of his teammates…he was a douche, yes, but a different kind of douche. Murray just strikes me as an entitled little prick who has outstanding physical ability that’s carried him all the way through, but in the NFL, you need more than just that. And I don’t think he has it. Plus he’s way too small…and I can’t stand watching him play…he looks like a munchkin out there. Please please please stay away from this guy…we don’t need lazy ass guys who don’t give effort I won’t say much about AG, but I just don’t think this is his kind of player
