The Official 2025 Tankathon Thread

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by James Hasty, Sep 22, 2025.

  1. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Once again, I am right there with you. He and the GM inherited a shit show. The Jets hamstrung the cap, traded away draft picks, and left a shitty situation that, frankly, I'm surprised attracted anyone at all. The fact that it attracted a hot candidate was even more surprising.

    I think the biggest mistake Aaron Glenn made was wanting to put his mark on the team immediately instead of just waiting a year and taking one on the chin. Forcing Aaron Rodgers out the door and paying his salary while bringing in another quarterback at a 20 million price tag, a guy who's not very good and frankly I think stinks, limited them even more. There's not a lot of talent there and really no way to overcome that until next year or even the year after.

    So, that leaves us where you said, attack one thing at a time and get it cleaned up. It doesn't seem like they are cleaning anything up, and it's getting worse. I've always been a very strong proponent of SOJ, but at this point it's almost like someone clicked a button and we have an SOJ highlight reel on repeat over and over again.
     
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  2. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Just wait…next week will be worse…Denver’s D is for real…we will be held to under 10 points, and I think there’s more than a 50/50 chance we get shut out.
     
  3. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    The Chat GPT QB is great.

    I decided to ask it why the Jets are such a terrible organization to see how it aligns with TGG’s beliefs. Pretty spot on aside of perhaps the order and the “decade” statement, imo.

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    “The New York Jets are often criticized as a “terrible organization” not purely because of bad luck or talent shortages, but because of long-standing structural and cultural issues. Here’s a breakdown of why that reputation exists — from both a historical and organizational standpoint:

    1. Chronic Leadership Instability

    The Jets have cycled through owners, general managers, and head coaches with alarming frequency. Each new regime tends to bring a new philosophy, staff, and system, leading to a lack of continuity. Without long-term strategic vision, progress resets every few years.


    • Since 2010, the Jets have had six head coaches and multiple GMs.
    • Each pairing (coach + GM) has often seemed misaligned — different priorities, poor communication, and short tenures.

    2. Poor Talent Evaluation and Draft History

    The NFL Draft is where teams build sustainable success. The Jets, however, have consistently failed to identify and develop elite talent:

    • They’ve missed on several high picks (e.g., Christian Hackenberg, Darnold, Zach Wilson) while passing on future stars.
    • Even when they draft well (e.g., Jamal Adams, Sheldon Richardson), they often fail to keep those players long-term due to organizational discord or poor contract handling.

    3. Quarterback Chaos

    For over a decade, the Jets have lacked a true franchise quarterback (only a decade? -J81)— the most critical position in football.


    • From Mark Sanchez to Zach Wilson, none have delivered sustained success.
    • The constant turnover has stunted offensive development, created locker room instability, and made it impossible to build a consistent identity.

    4. Ownership and Culture Problems


    Many fans and analysts point to ownership — particularly Woody Johnson — as the root cause.

    • The perception is that he values marketability over football sense, intervenes at the wrong times, and prioritizes optics over results.
    • Organizational culture trickles down from ownership, and in the Jets’ case, that culture has long been described as reactive, inconsistent, and media-driven rather than process-driven.

    5. Failure to Develop a Modern Football Identity


    While successful franchises (e.g., 49ers, Chiefs, Ravens) have a clear identity, the Jets seem to oscillate between rebuilding and desperation.

    • Some years they chase splashy signings and trades (Le’Veon Bell, Aaron Rodgers), other years they tear it all down.
    • Without a coherent football philosophy, even talented rosters struggle to succeed.

    6. The New York Spotlight


    Playing in the New York market magnifies every mistake. Media scrutiny is relentless, and pressure mounts quickly. That environment can break fragile organizations — and the Jets have rarely had the leadership stability to handle it gracefully.


    In short:

    The Jets’ problems are systemic, not accidental — a mix of ownership missteps, front-office instability, poor quarterback management, and an absence of organizational identity. Until they build from the top down with patience and alignment, even flashes of talent will keep collapsing under the same dysfunction.
     
  4. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Other than "cycling through owners with alarming frequency", that is goddamn spot on.
     
  5. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t catch the owners part there. Yea, we actually NEED to cycle through owners at the moment.
     
  6. Jets79

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    This is super spot on and pretty much all of this we’ve all stated here

    This is first and foremost a problem of leadership. It all starts there. And Woody is clueless. That’s not ranting, that’s FACT. He’s proven this over the last 2 decades by not only the hires he’s made, but the mismatched way in which he’s made them. Pairing a new GM in Idzik with a coach on the hot seat in Rex is just stupid. Shit like that. But it all starts at the top.

    What Woody really needs to do is find a guy to run the whole operation and then just step away. But he can’t find that guy because not only does he not know football, he also has proven that he doesn’t know people.

    Any good business needs a strong vision and direction and strategy, and that usually comes from a strong leader at the top. Usually the CEO. But Woody wouldn’t know a good leader from a pimple on his ass. He is just totally worthless.

    So the only hope we as fans have is that he just lucks into a good GM or HC by sheer chance…and so far that hasn’t been working for us.
     
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  7. Borat

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    You mean September is the new November? Welcome to Glenn's New York Jets! We are built for this shit!
     
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  8. jets_fan

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    Maybe they should hire ChatGPT as the next HC of the NYJ.
     
  9. The_Darksider

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    I had originally typed September, but since we're in October I just changed it to that. But this is the Jets, we may as well go with August.
     
  11. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    I’d go with GM and give it full control. Can’t do any worse.
     
  12. jets_fan

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    The season actually was over in September, so I think that works. Today's debacle is just more of the same.
     
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  13. Borat

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    No instant coffee here. But Gleen will look at the tape as the large ship slowly turns.
     
  14. jets_fan

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    And when he's done, he'll be certain to tell us that he likes where we're at.
     
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    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Yes, every game is.
     
  16. Jets79

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    He’ll look at the tape and fix nothing. Like he’s done for 4 straight weeks now.

    This is more than just a lack of talent. This coaching staff is doing them no favors.

    Does anyone think that if we had a real coach here we’d be 0-5? Parcells? Reid? Tomlin? O’Connell? McVay? No fucking way.

    This is a bad coach (not surprising with a rookie DC) running a bad team.
     
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  17. jets_fan

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    Bill Parcells, even right now at the age of 84, at the bare minimum, would be 3-2 with this team. He could have coached his way through the Pittsburgh, Tampa, and Miami games with his eyes closed.
     
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  18. Borat

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    Bob is Lombardi compared to this guy. Won 4 games after JD completely dismantled the roster. Woody is too stupid to choose a coach, even with help. The hope was that even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. But not with Woody. Can't stumble on a good coach even blindly, when the best offensive guy you interview is failed OC Slowik.
     
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  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I have become a lot more flexible with things AI, but it kind of bothers me that I only asked for a formula, and it was prepared and willing to write an entire screenplay for it.
     
  20. Ralebird

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    High tech, low tech or traditional?

    (In vitro, turkey baster or you know.)
     

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