Tayor outplaying Fields in Camp

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Fields best asset is creating with his legs which I’m sure they aren’t letting him do so he doesn’t get hurt. It also creates space against a defense that probably isn’t being created right now.

    There’s no upside to playing Taylor whatsoever. He’s a good (career) backup who can dink and dunk down the field without turning the ball over, but he gets us nothing.

    There’s hope with Fields that you see some sort of Darnold, Mayfield, Geno lightbulb click on after being thrown to the scrap heap.
     
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  2. JetsNation06

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    The goal is to find out if Fields is more than a 1 year stopgap at the most important position on the field which will dictate the record of this team.

    Give him a few games to show that. But don't wait too long until the season is a wash. If he clearly sucks in the first 2-3 games then put Taylor in and see if he can salvage the season.

    I'd rather watch competitive football for once and the Jets haven't given us that in oh so long. Taylor may be a one year deal but I don't care. If he gives us the best chance in that one year, then ride him.

    Aaron Glenn doesn't;t strike me as the Robert Saleh, Joe Douglas, fill in the blank types. He seems no nonsense and moves decisively when things don't work. At least that's the impression I get and hope from how they handled things in Detroit which was very professional (the anti-Jets).

    If not, then tank and draft a potential franchise QB next year. That's all.
     
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    I think it’s more this last point…there is very little upside to playing Taylor, not least of which is that he’d likely get hurt with a bunch of playing time.

    The best plan seems to be to ride Fields…upside is he develops into a decent starter (unlikely to me but you never know), and the downside is he continues to be what he’s been and we end up with like 5-6 wins and a better draft slot in what is supposed to be a good QB draft.

    Which has been the story of our mediocre team for decades now it seems

    But still way early for this right now…we haven’t even played a preseason game yet…let’s see how things shake out. We do have a tough start to our schedule so we may know early what we can expect…
     
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    I have been following Faria's career for past few years and found him to be as reasonable as any other reporter who is watching these practices. Since we can't see for ourselves, we can at least get some idea from folks like him. I agree the sky is not falling, nor is he saying that. It's way too early now, and consistency takes time to build, it is still 1st year installation. It will take some time, and frankly I think it will take some weeks during regular season as well, not just the camp.

    With that said I just haven't seen anything alarming about Fields from any of the reports I read. He has up and down days, he has great days, but really no bad ones just yet. If you look across the these reports throughout the practices, looks to be about 25TDs and 1 INT. Now, this obviously does not take fumbles into account since he can't be hit, but still impressive ball security in camp. I think he can still have that breakout year this year, or an average NFL QB year, which would be a major plus for us at the position. And he is likely to get better as the season goes along too.
     
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    Not a bad plan at all. Both Fields and Taylor are prone to injury anyway so we will see both this season for sure
     
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    I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with Faria or whoever the fuck the new fangled beat reporters are but these sort of justifications sound an awful lot like what we heard as to why Nania’s weird cherry-picked stats on Zach Wilson was amazing.
     
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    Faria didn't mention 25 TDs and 1 INT. This is just what I observed based on all these reports. I am not giving it much stock to it, just saying it is not a bad thing he hasn't thrown too many picks in camp. Btw, I do not recall Zach having good ball security in camp.
     
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    This. If you’re forcing Fields to make plays with his eyes and arm then he’s going to be outplayed by a lot of people. Have to hope once he’s turned loose the gold with his legs outweigh the bad with everything else. Where I do get concerned is the ways in which he's struggling. The same ways as he was struggling 4 years ago.
     
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    Yeah…this is my view as well

    I don’t think Fields is the long term answer…I think we are taking a long shot to get through the season as there really weren’t very many better options out there…Rodgers playing under a new rookie staff didn’t make much sense, and of the free agents, the best of the bunch were probably the two guys the Giants got in Russel and Jameis…not sure I’d take either guy over Fields at this point, and the other trade possibility may have been to make an offer for Cousins, but, you know, FUCK him…so I wouldn’t want him regardless after how he played us and flat out admitted it…

    So it is what it is, but I don’t think our QB answer is on the roster and I fully expect we’ll have to draft one next year…the only question is how many games will we win and how that will affect our draft position.
     
  10. FloridaMan

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    Fields is a better runner and is better on off-schedule plays. So, no, I wouldn't start Taylor, unless Fields is terrible.
     
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    How "reasonable" is it for Faria to say "When the New York Jets signed quarterback Justin Fields to a two-year contract during the 2025 offseason, the organization made it clear that the former first-round signal-caller would not go through a competition to earn the starting job" when Glenn was quoted saying this four months ago?:

    “No one’s gonna say there’s not competition. This team’s gonna be built on competition,” Glenn said. “Just because you’re one on the depth that, that’s all written in pencil. This league is about competition, and the elite athletes, they thrive on that.

    “So just because [Fields] is Quarterback 1 doesn’t mean that Tyrod’s not gonna be on this hill. Everybody has to have, you gotta have, a depth chart. That’s what this league is. But there’s gonna be competition. [Fields] knows that and Tyrod knows that. And that’s across the board. Every position on this team, there’s gonna be competition.”

    “So just because [Fields] is Quarterback 1 doesn’t mean that Tyrod’s not gonna be on this hill. Everybody has to have, you gotta have, a depth chart. That’s what this league is. But there’s gonna be competition. [Fields] knows that and Tyrod knows that. And that’s across the board. Every position on this team, there’s gonna be competition.”
    How "reasonable" is it for him to title his piece by saying the Jets are in an "awkward position"? And how "reasonable is it for him to lead that piece with "There has been a clear No. 1 quarterback so far during New York Jets training camp, and it isn't Justin Fields" when everything else I've read says that Fields has been inconsistent, not that Taylor has consistently outplayed him?

    The semi-pro Faria has set up a false premise then highlighted some of the worst days for Fields, disregarding any of the good, and declared Taylor the winner of a competition he says never existed. The only thing "awkward" about the situation is his total disregard for the reality of the situation. Certainly Chicken Little could have written the piece which is the basis for this thread,
     
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    Right. And I read a camp report late last week that said Fields was sharp. Not buying into that, either. Even if I were to give this report the benefit of any doubt, the notion that a 14-year journeyman QB looks more comfortable in a new offense two-weeks into training isn’t newsworthy. That’s been most of his career, and we already know what his best season looks like. If Tyrod Taylor is the starter on Day One, Justin Fields better be in a goddamn hospital bed, strung up in traction.
     
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    Zach’s biggest problem is that he was a pussy. All the other flaws in his game flowed from that. If Fields’ NFL career is a wash-out, that won’t be the reason. Either way, we’ll know for certain by November and can look ahead to a pretty decent 2026 QB class - which we’d better effing be doing anyway.
     
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    I think the JD era was more of a five-year hole.
     
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    All of this. I won’t grade the writer, but this story and use of the word “awkward” to manufacture drama is soupy horseshit.
     
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    I like Taylor, but he's hyper obsessed with taking care of the football. That is good for a backup and good for a veteran mentor type, too. But its hard to win games without taking any chances downfield
     
  18. AtlantaJet

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    I just saw a interesting stat. My original post said that Field's was Zach Wilson with better running ability. Fields career average yards per carry is 6.0, Wilson's is actually surprisingly 5.4. Fields just runs a lot more.
     
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    I do think that was the agreement when they signed him. Mooge and AG both said this right after they got him to be the starter. Fields is and has always been unquestioned QB1. There is nothing wrong with this reporting.
     
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    Really only two paths at this juncture:

    1) Fields is good and we get the PO Monkey off our back, or

    2) We draft our future QB, or

    3) Maybe we do both....we get into the PO's despite Fields, then draft our future QB a bit later

    What do you think will happen?
     
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