The point is that it was not ALL bad in your 39 years as a fan, and even though most of it was, AG is trying to replicate and improve on the most successful season we had in that time span. It does not have to be EXACT same blueprint, but yeah, we do need a QB and AG/Mooge would need to find one. There are some veteran options available this year and in the draft next year. Let's give these guys a chance to see what they can do. Letting go of expensive (even if he takes another pay cut) declining 42 year old HoFer past his prime is a step in the right direction. But I agree, to get rid of someone is easy, the hard part is finding someone good, and this is where I want to give them a chance to do so.
Yes thats the best way to play it. Could jump right on a Super Bowl caliber team and ride off with a title.
I have 27-28 years worth of reference. In that time.. The only truly good years came from Bill Parcell/ AG era and Rex Ryan. Not a lot to work with. So, maybe my child like nostalgia is kicking in here but I try to stay fairly unbiased with this kind of thing. I truly do like the direction so far and I absolutely LOVE the accountability aspect that AG is bringing to this team. Kicking Arod out the door proves he isn't going to be persuaded by anyone. That's a good sign. Do what's best for team.. win/lose/draw Here's hoping for better football ahead for our team! That's all any of us fans want at this point I think. To not cheer for a fucking loser team. We need a winner. Let's hope this is the era for it.
Its official now, the Jets have announced they are moving on from Rodgers Jets to Move On from Aaron Rodgers (NY Jets.com) "Last week we met with Aaron and shared that our intention was to move in a different direction at quarterback," said HC Aaron Glenn and GM Darren Mougey in a statement released by the team. "I personally want to thank Aaron for his time at the New York Jets," said Chairman Woody Johnson
I spent the last year+ here arguing all that here with many posters here. Long before the pitch forks were brought out. All of that is true. But he did have options that didn't include playing in NY with zero offensive coaching support. That isn't an excuse...that's on *him* and a roll of the dice *he* made (everybody knew Rodgers to NY was in the works as soon as that Hackett signing happened). Anyway and like i alluded to earlier Rodgers with boundries is a different player evaluation imo. We never got to see that *here* because...Jets. It would have and my guess will end up looking a lot better elsewhere next year.
If Rodgers does what Russ did last year while he was still cashing his big checks from Denver, and makes money a distant secondary concern to landing in the best fit for himself, I think you are selling the potential interest way short there. Maybe even among some of those no way in hell teams you list where he's arguably a better 1 year run option imo then what they already have in place. Strip out all the baggage and tell me we were getting Aaron Rodgers for a 1 year $1-2m salary 2 years ago and I probably would of been the biggest fanboy defender of the signing on this message board. And i say that as somebody who never denied the clear cut age decline from MVP form we saw happen in 2022.
Looks like Colin is making my same argument on his opening segment today. A humbled Rodgers making no hard demands coming in is going to have a market. He ain't crazy on the potential Rams interest/fit either imo if the rams can really line up a good trade package on Stafford. I personally don't think Stafford is worth a healthy haul at this point but there has been a lot of smoke talk around that lately.
What really matters is winning and team commitment. Let me ask any of you a question... If you hired someone and then found out the guy/gal was not totally committed (and I have seen the back and forth about AR8s commitment) to your endeavor what would you do? You would probably sit that person down (like the Jets did) and have a conversation with them about direction and where their respective head is at. If the person buys in then they stay...if they are unwilling or if they have certain demands that would hinder your endeavor, why would you want them? I believe this is a smart decision, given the disaster that JD and RS left us with, i.e., a coolection of players not a "team." If any of you think Parcells would put up with his BS, your delusional. I wanted him here but frankly, he didn't elevate his team nor did he win (many) games... but still was able to throw team mates under the bus... I say good riddances.
As you remind me of the $1-2M salary to have him now the options increase so that is point well taken. It also painfully reminds me of the insane number of accommodations we accepted to have him here for two years, surrounded by arguably one of the weakest CS ever. Woody and JD got absolutely taken to the cleaners on that trade.
In general I think you are making a lot more out of that Egypt trip, as an amplified after-the-fact narrative point, then it ever realistically was inside the organization. I mean at the end of the day what are we talking about there, 2 missed practices after making the physical? What about the rest of the 2 season sample size of practices he did attend, and that included all the non-mandatory stuff? Were the same people questioning the "commitment to winning" during that? Because I don't remember that. I do remember a whole lot of fanboy cheering coming out of the people who now have dagger in hand while looking to get their stabs in, and only *after* the terrible on-field results of having a Nathanel Hackett lead coaching room played itself out. I get not liking the Rodgers as a whole, or the baggage he brought, or saying he was ultimately at fault for why things didn't work out thus far. But to say he wasn't committed to winning is a step too far imo. Dude obviously cared, wanted it to work here, and believed it would.
Indeed, but a humble Rodgers is not a high probability expectation. I also think Stafford is still a damned good QB, but the salary is an issue and trading for him and giving picks to boot is not in the cards for many teams. I think AR would do well with the Rams if he accepts the HC play calling scenario.
Well pressures now on Glenn to win next year. If he wants to set the culture, show that he is in charge, and kick Rodgers out than anything less than a winning season next year is a failure. Better hope Rodgers doesn't go to a team and win or else Glenn will have to answer questions for it.
Completely disagree. The pressure is on AG to develop a winning culture for the next five plus years and hopefully more regardless on who is behind center. AR success with another solid team like the Rams for a year or may be two has absolutely nothing, zero, nada to do with evaluating AG legacy. One potentially good year, and I stress potentially decent season with AR at the helm of the Jets and then implode because we failed to build all the pieces properly now from the ground up nor develop a more balanced and modern offensive system will mean absolutely nothing. AG will be judged solely on how this team develops and becomes a contender for the long run.
hopefully the team learns a lesson from this. Indeed, it's not a bad principle in life to treat each failure as a possible gift -- in the sense that one has the opportunity to learn from it Some pretty basic ones in this instance 1. Don't do business with Green Bay unless you're a masochist 2. it's not a bad idea to draft a QB later in round 1 (as was the case for AR and Love) and let them sit and learn for a while because NFL is much different than college 3. whenever anyone is made available, there's a reason behind it (and it may not be the stated one). The entity that has the best intel on the person is letting them go is a warning sign. It doesn't mean that the deal is necessarily bad, there might be good reason for his availability (e.g., team is capped out and can't effectively make it work; no longer on the same time line with a team, etc.) . But one should proceed cautiously
Well, JD certainly kept getting raped by Gutekunst, that's for sure. And not just Rodgers trade, but even smaller transactions they had in last draft's later rounds. Every transaction with GB he looked like an absolute armature after a proper spanking. I do hope Mooge can get a fair deal that JD simply could not. After he whooped Pete Carrol in the Adams trade, he didn't win too many trades in general. Frankly even before that tool That Leonard Williams trade for a 3d round pick didn't live up too well either. Was an absolute beast for the Giants in his prime, and then Giants got a second for him when he was older and expensive.
