Why not hire a QB consultant team??

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  1. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Serious question, does one even exist? If not, why not set the trend and create one? We hire consultants to find us coaches and GM’s, and the scouting team seems to have an overall focus on scouting all players, not just QB’s. Why not have a team comprised of some of the best minds on playing and coaching the QB position scouting the young guys as well as profiling the existing pros that may become available?
     
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    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    You can get a QB draft consultant for free by just looking at Consensus Big Board. The value added of a good GM is knowing how a QB prospect will fit into your specific system, and a consultant won't be able to help with that. Sure, maybe there's a consultant out there who has an actual edge on everyone else on drafting QBs, but if so, then identifying that guy is as hard a problem as identifying the best QB.
     
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    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    That’s nonsense. Big boards continuously overinflate QB’s because they get ratings. Big boards started the Zach Wilson craze. I’m talking about true evaluators of the position. Guys who have played it successfully, guys who have coached it successfully, guys who have scouted them successfully. I’m not talking about Chris Simms and Dan Orlovsky.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    who are these people
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think they work for the Chiefs or something
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    What makes you think Woody and Chris Johnson would listen to them anyway..?
     
  7. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know, hence why I’m asking. We haven’t had a franchise QB since 1968, maybe it’s worth trying something different? Or is hiring repeated Defense Coordinators truly the way to finding your franchise QB?
     
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    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Then why hire a coach and GM? Hell, Johnson and Johnson for GM and Coach.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Please... don't give those two idiots any ideas..
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    ok. yeah I dont know either. It kind of strikes me as something nobody really knows. Like hiring stockbrokers or something
     
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    They are a handful of community college kids around the country who started looking at these things when they were in fifth grade who spend twelve hours a day, more on weekends, in their basements watching film and poring over stats. They are normally pale undernourished kids who more often than not skip meals and shun the sun for they are held in rapture by their mission. The problem is that they are so devoid of social skills they would find it virtually impossible to communicate their findings to normal people. Or the Johnsons.
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    That’s why teams hire scouts.
     
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    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Who’s our scouts?
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    A bunch of guys hired by Joe Douglas. That's also another reason no team should be drafting QB in the first round for year 1 of a regime change, they are depending on intel from guys they don't know.

    They should build up to a first round QB in a logical approach, not draft one the first thing they do. That doesn't make a splash though.
     
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    No argument here. Besides, this year’s QB crop is terrible.
     
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    I was referring to big boards ranking QBs relative to other QBs, not big boards ranking QBs relative to other players. If you also care about ranking them compared to other players, then team needs become a factor, and if a GM requires a consultant to tell him about his own team's needs, then he's completely lost.
     
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    Maybe Woody should hire a consultant to find these consultants.
     
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    From what I understand, we have scouts. Those scouts have regions of what they analyze. The same guy could be analyzing DT’s, CB’s, QB’s…. How can one person possibly be an evaluator of multiple positions? I want a crew of scouts that only analyze QB’s. I want them ranking all of the QB’s with a probability of success for each player, and a detailed report of what kind of team it will take to truly bring out the best in each QB. Why in the world not? You need a QB in this league, it’s more important than anything else.
     
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    Woody is Jerry Jones without the glamour or success.
     
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    My personal theory is that the idea that it is so hard to find the right quarterback is because the difference between smashing success and total failure is so razor-close.

    Just think if the Jets had picked Josh Allen at their original draft pick and kept their 3 2nd round picks. They'd currently be running around barely losing championship games and being a perennial powerhouse.

    You lose a couple of the wrong coin flips and then compound the losing ones with a bad decision or two to compensate and before you know it your league worst and you didn't even do that much wrong.
     

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