I can't speak for others, but I was anti-Glenn before the playoff game. The two biggest arguments in favor of him are that he's popular with players, and the Lions won a lot of games. But talk, even if it's from players, is cheap, and he wasn't the reason the Lions won those games.
Culture guy, excellent leader and teacher. Despite the revolving door of players on defense(21 players saw snaps in a game), they finished above average in a lot of metrics like DVOA, EPA/play, 3rd down% and RZ%. Defense didn’t nosedive until McNeil and Davis went down in the Buffalo game. At that point, just too many street FAs and practice squad players forced to eat snaps as they had only two of their starting front seven still active. Personally, between Johnson and Glenn, I think Glenn has the better disposition to excel at leading a team.
Newmark honestly scares me a little bit. This is a guy who went through a lot of losing in Detroit. There was really no one to learn from there for most of his career. Somehow he kept his job. When Holmes came in from a successful organization (Rams) they kept Newmark as #3 guy there. But even Holmes is not established enough to learn from I feel like as he is only a 3 year GM himself and the jury is still out on how successful Detroit will be. Plus Newmark was with him for only 3 years, only one of which was good - 2023. 1st year they were terrible, even worse than before. Second year they did have 9-8 season, but no play-offs. And only in the 3d year they won the division and reached NFC Championship game. Newmark then leaves for Washington to be #2 guy to the SF GM they hired (note another successful organization) and spend only one year there. And it is a great year, but I wouldn't say it was because they got such a great roster that year, it was mostly because they had #2 pick and got Daniels. Now I do not want to discount his role in the success of his teams last 2 years, but he also didn't help much in the failing Detroit teams before. It's a mixed bag at best, filled with a lot of losing and also 2 years of winning at the end. Is that enough to now know how to build a winning team? I would think if someone worked for over a decade with proven top GM Howie Roseman seeing a lot of success, like Halaby, or someone who has been around decade of success in KC with another top GM Veach, like Borgonzi would have been MUCH better and less risky choices. Borgonzi was there when KC traded up for Mahomes to take the team to next level. Basically guys like Halaby and Borgonzi got a lot of time with the proven top NFL GMs, won SBs, and there a higher likelihood they learned something there, while Newmark did not really spend a prolonged time with a top GM, but mostly with loser GMs and then very short time with the ones that look good so far, but jury is still out even on these guys if they ever become top GMs like Roseman or Veach or win a SB. And I understand that "Lance Newmark deserves a lot of the credit for the Tim Boyle addition", but it's just not the same thing Just a very risky choice if you ask me.
How long are we to tolerate the insanity of this team? Literally, the same shit over and over and over and over. Inexperienced DC and a desperate need to draft and develop a QB. How can anyone think this is a good idea? How can this team be so goddamn stupid? How?
Rinse and repeat, Rinse and Repeat, keep promising it will be different this time just buy tickets, go to games, buy hotdogs, buy your new franchise Qb Jerseys(he will be the next Mahomes) even though we brought in a defensive coordinator to develop him. This is insanity at its finest. Woody has literaly learned nothing from 25 years of failure, like how many more times does he have to fail trying the same shit to realize it isn't working? Is he really this fuckn dumb? This time its even worse as the guy is not even a good defensive coordinator like Saleh and Bowels was, he was stricly given a job because he is a ex Jet and said the right things in the interview like Saleh. Not convinced? Favre experiment fails what do you do? Double down and trade the future for Rodgers and let him bring all his chronies. Guess what that failed to. Woody will never learn and history will keep repeating itself over and over again. Congratulations Woody you accomplished something next year, headlines, tickets sold and last place in the division.
The correct way to look at the situation is to hope the head coach has a good plan for offense, defense and special teams so he can focus on being the guy in charge of the whole team for the whole game.
Mark Brunell as OC (if he doesn’t become that in Detroit)? How would we feel about that? https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1881890056874631472 Also, Glenn not a done deal yet, he’s going to NO tomorrow and I could see them pulling out all the stops…
thanks for sharing. From that tweet “I’m also told Glenn wants to bring in a veteran DC who has been a former NFL head coach. Glenn, sources say, is still putting his offensive staff together.” He’s talking about Dennis Allen right? Former Saints HC, that’s my guess
I'm always apprehensive when the "positive" things about a candidate are this intangible. These are the exact reasons people gave for why Saleh was a good hire. "He's high energy, his players love him and play hard for him, he's a leader of men, he's a true CEO-type." It was all either outright bullshit or irrelevant to his ability to be a good HC. Actually good candidates usually have a tangible body of work, skillset, or scheme which makes them a good candidate. Halaby has a unique skillset - he's more well versed in analytics than the vast majority of candidates. Ben Johnson has a unique skillset - he's a creative play designer and play caller. Kingsbury has a similarly unique skillset. What is Glenn's unique skillset? The culture/leadership things are great if true, but culture/leadership things are usually what's cited when there isn't something more tangible to cite. There's also a strong argument that culture/leadership are downstream of winning, not the other way around. My thoughts on this hire are probably going to largely be decided by who our OC ends up being.
Why are we relying on guys like Schefter using "X" for updates? What happened to message board guys taking shifts lurking in the bushes in Florham Park?
Largely agree. The "spent a ton of years with a losing franchise" thing worries me because it tells me Newmark is generally better at keeping jobs than being good at those jobs. Remind us of anyone? *cough* JD *cough* The charitable interpretation of Newmark is that he spent so much time seeing what didn't work, followed by back to back successful turnarounds with the Lions and Commanders, that he now has a pretty good idea of what to do and what not to do. I'm not saying I agree with this interpretation, but when I try to talk myself into him that's what I end up with.
The ex-Jet thing is weird. I feel like the Jets as an organization have this outsized obsession with people from the area, people who were Jets fans growing up, etc. I see "he's an NJ native" thrown out all the time as a supposed positive when assessing players and coaches. I really don't get it. Do other franchises obsess over this like the Jets do? Maybe, but I haven't seen it. Anyway, who cares about this stuff? It has nothing to do with someone's qualifications yet we seem to factor it into our decisions over and over again. I can't be convinced that Ruckert being a childhood Jets fan didn't factor into us drafting him for example. What are we doing here? The Jets are truly an experiment on the limits of illogical frustration.
Mark Brunnell was mentioned as a candidate. Is he the QB coach for Detroit? Goff sure as hell had a resurgence from his years in LA.
I hope so, I just have a lot of reservations that's how things work. Detroit hasn't been successful long enough for us to even know if what they did truly worked long term and not just a temporary success. I am not sure how much you can learn from losing all the time. And he hasn't really spent a lot of time with top GMs to learn from. I mean Holmes is not exactly Veach of Roseman, and he didn't even spend much time with him. Newmark experienced two good years in his entire career, last two years - out of 27. Did the light bulb go off in that miniscule recent time compared to the rest of his career that he can now replicate this for the Jets? I am hoping it is possible, I am rooting for him, but the probabilities are not where I would like them to be.
Yeah I don't know how I feel about Brunell. Brunell has very little experience, Goff played decently under McVay, and I attribute Goff's success in Detroit to Johnson. I've seen the name Nick Caley thrown around as a possible OC for Glenn and he does intrigue me. Current Rams passing game coordinator, spent 2015-2022 with the Patriots.
