Yes, that's what I mean. If YOU hire non minority DC let's say, and he becomes head coach after 2 years, you get nothing. If for the same DC position you hire minority coach, and he gets hired later as a HC for another team, you get 3d round pick. Which means if you need a DC, and two coaches are close, minority and not, it makes sense to get a minority, as it can get you a 3d round pick in the future if you lose him, while the other one won't.
Which head coaches has the NFL forced on any team? Which teams have been weakened by the Rooney Rule? How has it worsened the NFL's product?
This argument should be very far down on the list of reasons to hire any coach, regardless of their race, religion or ethnicity. It's obviously about the best available candidates first before even considering this line of thinking of a 3rd rd draft pick simply for hiring a minority coach.
You're joking right? minority /mə-nôr′ĭ-tē, -nŏr′-, mī-/ noun The smaller in number of two groups forming a whole. A group or party having fewer than a controlling number of votes. A racial, religious, political, national, or other group thought to be different from the larger group of which it is part.
I think it's a legitimate discussion and no one has made any derogatory comments since barf got his vacation. Don't censor us just to make your job easier
This now has its own thread. Agreed. This is a legitimate discussion hence I created this new thread.
No - I'm not kidding at all. If you believe any statute simply using the term "minority" would stand up in any court of law you are boldly mistaken. The statute, law, or in this case rule must be defined for the purposes of enforcement in that specific application; a simple dictionary definition is far too vague. Here, the NFL has created its own court and must follow the same type of precision lest they be taken to a real court. I also find it revealing that the NFL uses "ethnic" and "diverse" in its discussion of the Rooney Rule - both terms which do not even appear in the definition you cite. It also uses the term "thought" without any explanation of by whom. Such "simple" terms may satisfy some casual observers but cannot be used to benefit or penalize any entity.
@Ralebird does bring up a good point about it not being 100% clear. For example, I only knew that Saleh qualified because the League declared that during his hiring process. But otherwise even if we look at your own bolded statement: "A racial, religious, political, national, or other group thought to be different from the larger group of which it is part", does that mean for example that any Muslim, Jew, Mormon, Libertarian, Green Party affiliate, Swedish second generation, Egyptian Christian descendant, Gay, immigrant, all will fit Rooney rule? I know these cases are rare, but I do see RB's point that it's not clear and basically for non obvious cases League just decides. Which is fine by me, since these cases are rare, but the point that it is not particularly clear is valid also.
Cat? Could you distinguish a Himalayan from a Bengal if there wasn't a precise definition of each available in the annals of biology?
