Your Head Coach choices for 2025

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  1. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    Jersey color checks out at least....
     
  2. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

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    Josh McCown gets an interview today. I'm not totally opposed if he has a strong DC. Not sure if he'd call plays though. Probably would prefer an OC to do this with him being the "CEO" head coach. Seems like a guy who will be a HC sooner or later. Not overly enthused, but would prefer him over, say, Arthur Smith
     
  3. Jets OG fan

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    That sounds like an awful rule. Teams get incentive to get rid of minority coaches? That's going to make teams get rid of them on purpose, right?
     
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  4. Jets OG fan

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    Arabs are minorities, yes. He's of Lebanese descent.
     
  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    hmm that doesn't make any sense. There's no "getting rid" of them, they are losing a staffer for a promotion. They dont get anything if they fire a coordinator for example, only if another team steals him.

    I do think there are circumstances though where a team may not want to hire a minority candidate if they know that other team will get multiple draft picks from the league.

    the Jets probably dont care if the Detroit Lions get extra picks for Aaron Glenn. But they might if it was the Patriots
     
  6. Jets OG fan

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    It just seems like teams are incentivized to not promote minorities from within, since they get multiple draft picks not to. You're right, it's not "getting rid" of them, but they are required to give permission for other teams to interview.
     
  7. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    If it's Arthur Smith, I may take 3 years off.
     
  8. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I just was something that Flores/mccown could be package deal. I don’t hate that
     
  9. SOXXX2

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    No minority head coach hired in the past 16 years that has been hired has won a Super Bowl.

    Instead of pushing diversity, just push for the best candidates. Rooney Rule needs to go 100% since it's goal is flat out to push an agenda which hasn't helped teams. Hire the best, the end.

    "the Rooney Rule aims to increase the number of minorities hired in head coach" -NFL.com

    https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/inclusion/the-rooney-rule/
     
  10. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    The rule as currently constructed needs to go. If anything it reduces minorities to a checked box 90% of the time. The concept itself however is very valid.
     
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    I might permanently take off
     
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  12. Poeman

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    Agreed a valid concept but poorly structured and ends up being a waste of time. Always hire the best candidate. It's become a joke when the league forces teams to interview at least 1 black coach or minority.
     
  13. PennyRoyal10

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    Me wanting Flores has ZERO to do with his skin color, it's absolutely irrelevant to me. All I care about is that he has things that this organization desperately needs. He has prior HC experience and got the most out of a Miami team with marginal talent - he did not get fired from Miami because he couldn't coach, he got fired because he bristled with the GM that preferred Tua over the guy he wanted, Herbert. I like that he could diagnose the better QB (not saying Tua is bad, but Herbert is better), and he pushed back on management and wasn't afraid to speak his mind. I won't pretend to know everything he did in Miami as it relates to being a total complete hardass on his players, but I am old enough to know that people can alter their approach and learn from past mistakes as they mature. Some guys just coach hard, think Parcells and Beli, some guys like Carroll have a different approach, neither one is right. For far too long the NYJ have been an undisciplined mess with a meddling owner, Flores to me, is the guy with the right OC with him. Having said that, I do not believe Woody will hire him for the latter reason alone...
     
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  14. Jets OG fan

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    That's an interesting stat. Of course Mike Tomlin won one 17 years ago and the Rooney Rule helped him get the interview that got him hired.

    It looks like you are trying to make a correlation that minorities hired are the weaker hires because of the rule, but the Rooney Rule only guarantees an interview not the hire.

    I bet 90% of head coaches hired never even make it to a Super Bowl, so I don't think it really means anything.
     
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  15. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    I was disappointed that Aaron Glenn decided to retire a Texan. No fake spike whiff jokes here, alas.
     
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    Why LOL? His father is black - that's a minority by almost any standard.
     
  17. Ralebird

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    If it's a rule, just as in a law, there should be a clear and precise definition of the terms. I do not see "Arab" called a minority anywhere, it is simply too broad and indiscriminate a term.
     
  18. letsgojets2819

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    I don't know about that can't get any worse than Adam Gase, Saleh and Ulbrich, we already hit rock bottom in the coaching pool. Ulbrich can't coach pee wee football.
     
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  19. BrowningNagle

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    MENA is the term. “Middle Eastern Northern African”
     
  20. abyzmul

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