Your Head Coach choices for 2025

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    You are correct, Gruden and the NFL are engaged in a legal battle.

    Nothing has been decided and it is very premature to make such declarative statements. The next step is in the hands of the entire panel of the Supreme Court of the State of Nevada, it may not be the last. The case revolves around whether the NFL can arbitrarily decide who they will allow to be employed by their teams. Stay tuned.

    apnews.com/article/gruden-nfl-lawsuit-2fd3e34a0e298b857b1b817c8fad4c77

    The law matters.
     
  2. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    They can't legally keep him out of the league. That was proven when the league paid millions of dollars in a settlement with Kaepernick.
     
  3. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    You are naive lol.
     
  4. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    Yeah…. No. The criteria for top HC candidates has been the same for the past 20 years: a franchise qb or the ability to acquire one (a top draft selection); ownership; location; the ability to make roster changes and sign free agents (via salary cap room and number of draft picks); strength of the current roster; who’s in that teams division; freedom and autonomy in decision making, etc.

    Basically none of which the jets have, which is why they haven’t been able to find a quality GM candidate in 2 decades and why the only candidates willing to accept jets positions are the desperate ones without many options. I don’t see that changing in the near future based on what’s gone on here. Money is not motivating when you know you’re going to be fired in a year anyway and have your career tarnished.
     
  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I agree with ralebird here, the league can’t keep Gruden out. And if an owner really wanted to hire him, he could make it happen.

    Besides in the past anyway Jerry Jones, Al Davis, those guys have had lawsuits filed against the league and they all worked around it.


    The problem for us is that Woody Johnson is not the type of guy for that.

    He doesn’t have the gumption and he’s involved in politics now. the last thing he needs is a big legal battle involving the stuff Gruden is accused of doing

    0% chance he’s the next coach here
     
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  6. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    You have to swing big to get big results.

    Anything can be acquired for the right price. It's up to Woody.

    Every Jets fan and media talking head should be squarely looking at Woody Johnson right now. Nothing underneath his level matters anymore when it comes to this debacle of a franchise. Nothing.

    Your move, Woodrow.
     
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  7. Jets OG fan

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    Weren't the leaked emails from Gruden racist? Do you really want that guy? I get that we live in a world where criminality is championed and rapists get voted into office, but seriously...
     
  8. Bills over Jets

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    The problem with what you and ralebird are saying is that it doesn’t happen so black and white. Of course any team “can” hire him, that’s not in question. The problem with that is they won’t because they know it will piss off Goodell and that Goodell will subsequently make their lives a living hell through all of the various powers he has. Owners are not going to want to make enemies with the league. No team is going to do that imo.
     
  9. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I don’t care what a bills fan thinks
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    By the way, the commissioner works for the owners, not the other way around
     
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    I’ll throw an interesting yet unlikely idea…. If Bill Bellicheck decides he wants the biggest challenge to undoubtedly prove he’s the best coach, offer him the job…


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  12. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    He hates the Jets and Woody.
     
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    he hates everyone though lol
     
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    Im pretty sure if we offered him enough money, he’d be open to coming… he was never best of friends with Kraft


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    I highly doubt that. There's no reason why the Jets would live rent free in his head like that. He turned down the Jets coaching job 25 years ago over a disagreement with how the team would be structured, as well as his desire to have more say in personnel operations, not some deep, personal burning hatred for Woody Johnson. He then made the best decision of his career by going to the Patriots, winning 6 Super Bowls, coaching the greatest QB of all time, and is now being considered possibly the greatest coach of all time because of that. He's dominated the Jets for two decades; he's 37-11 against them. There's no way in hell he holds any resentment towards the Jets. If he gives them any thought, it's pity.

    But would we really want him here? He's 72 years old, he's only had moderate success with any QB other than Brady, and we need someone who can possibly build long term success.
     
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  16. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    It seems you have no idea what the word "legally" means.
     
    #416 Ralebird, Nov 19, 2024 at 1:58 PM
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  18. Bills over Jets

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    It seems you have no idea what naive means. You think we live in a world where billionaires (and anyone, really) don’t ever find ways around rules and laws, there are no gray areas, only black and white and everyone lives strictly by what state and federal statutes say. That’s naive.
     
  19. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. But when you don’t take it you’re easy to laugh at. Tell us again why what a Bills fan brings to a Jets forum. Or why you try
     
  20. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    And the move for Woody is not to hire a GM himself, even with the help of a headhunter organization or some has-been NFL relics, but to put together a group of people who actually know what's going on in the league today and know the people who can do the job. I would suggest maybe Ryan, Carroll and Parcells, probably with the assistance of Savage to finally get the selection right and then work with the new GM to select and convince the right coach to finally steer this ship to respectability.
     
    #420 Ralebird, Nov 19, 2024 at 4:34 PM
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