General Film Talk Thread

Discussion in 'BS Forum' started by The Dark Knight, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    Disney assumed the same thing with Marvel and Star Wars — that consumer dedication to the brands were so strong that characters and story didn’t matter. Put brand name on entertainment and they will flock to see it. Marvel, at least, has a bunch of character and stories they can mine to try and win back consumers; Star Wars, as a mass market brand, is just a single story told from the prequels to the OT. But if you asked a 10 year old what was Star Wars about now and they probably couldn’t tell you. They will probably mention Jedi and Mandalorians but they could t tell you what the brand story actually is, and it’s not about a galaxy where strange characters live out adventures and you can just tell any random story you can imagine has taken place in it.

    now all you are left with, for audiences that didn’t grow up with the original story, is a generic sci-fi brand that they know was hugely popular 30 years ago but is now just bad shows about different characters every series. That is not a recipe for longevity. Star Wars now is what Flash Gordon was when Star Wars first came out.
     
  2. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Money is money. Pretty sure Endgame made over $2 billion. Say you lose half your audience, you still make over $1 billion.
     
  3. JetBlue

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    But Endgame had a $365 million budget; following typical studio practices of the marketing budget equaling the film budget, that’s a total cost to produce and market the film of $730 million. With the average studio to theatre split of 50%, making only $1billion for an Avengers movie is losing money if they only capture $500 million from that box office. They need to make $2 billion for a meaningful return on investment.

    and with Disney cannibalizing it’s DTC business with Disney + and declining home video sales, they don’t actually make money after the theatre. They simply switch their cash from one pocket to the other.
     
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  4. Ill Will

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    Yeah watched it on NF recently. I had trouble getting going on this one. But in the end thought it was pretty good.

    Jake Gyllenhaal, however, was great as that weird cop and really put it over the top for me.
     
  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Has anyone seen Dave Bautista lately? Dude went on the Alan Faneca weight loss plan and his muscles are gone. I guess them roids were giving him health issues.
     
  6. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    He was mad about not getting cast in any rom coms, had to get down to soccer dad size
     
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  7. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    I watched Rebel Ridge on Netflix saving everyone else the time. Same old retread story, good guy enters town, immediately grabbed up by the local corrupt sheriff, gets released by promising to leave but decides to stay, finds local insider to help, takes down the whole corrupt crew and rides off into the sunset. Not sure why I watched the whole thing.
     
  8. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Anybody watch "Reptile" yet? Thought it was pretty good.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Walking Tall meets Rambo.
     
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  10. REVISion

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    I've had such bad experiences with Netflix movies that it would take overwhelming praise to get me to watch one. Even the ones that seem right up my alley are almost always horrible, like 95% of the time.

    I have no clue who's running their movie division but it's been an abject disaster ever since I can remember. Awful producers, directors, and writers across the board.
     
  11. Ill Will

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    Pretty good. Heats up about a third of the way in.

    The Killer gets mixed reviews but I thought it was pretty fucking great. Initially I turned it off pretty quickly thinking wtf is this shit?
    But I went back to it and and am glad I did. Have watched it three times and will watch again
    Fun listening to a sociopath in the middle of a killing spree lollol, and Fassbender is great
     
  12. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    I heard the Joker 2 or whatever it's called sucks hard. I hardly think that matters anymore bcause people will still shell out like crazy for a shitty product because it's comic book based.

    It's like Deadpool & Wolverine. I admit I'm hardly versed in the story line, but it just sounded like they were grasping at straws to get these two characters together in a movie.

    It just proves my point that suck or not these movies make money hand over fist, it's really unreal. Then again, that's what the studios are there for: to make $, ha.

    I also think that Rotten Tomatoes is highly manipulated.

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  13. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Oh, man, Joker 2 is getting roasted, broasted, and fileted. The reviews are crapping all over it, looks like I may be wrong here and it's just gonna bomb completely after investing MILLIONS of dollars.

    One reviewer said Joaquin Phoenix's career may not recover, Holy Shit, hahaha. I saw a gif of JP flailing some brief case around and running wildly. It looks unintentionally hilarious.

    It could always turn into a cult classic! They could make maybe a 1/4 of their money back that way.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think Megalopolis will probably go cult classic, this sounds like it just sucks.
     
  15. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Going to see it today. I'm on the REGAL monthly subscription so this movie will cost me $1.00. Watch the Jets this morning. Then go see a wack movie. Come home and do a Chuck Roast. Life is good!! :)
     
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    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE! I repeat, DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY ON THIS MOVIE. 2.5hrs of your life will be wasted. Perhaps the worst movie I've seen in '24 bar none. They managed to destroy the budding Joker franchise with this shitshow. It was boring. It was corny. It was a complete waste.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The first one was pretty arthouse, I was not surprised that this went off the rails.

    But hey, we get to have Hollywood try to ram horseface Lady Gaga down our throats as if she's an actor again.
     
  18. NYGalPal

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    Just saw transformers one, and it was so good. Best transformers film ever made. The best movies I’ve seen this year have been animated. Transformers one and The wild robot.
     
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  19. barfolomew

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    Wow that bad? Dang
     
  20. Cman68

    Cman68 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Yep... It was that bad..
     

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