Eagles Owner (Jeffrey Lurie) vs Jets Owner (Woody Johnson)

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  1. Brook!

    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    Jeffrey Lurie:

    - Hired Andy Reid and went to Superbowl
    - Hired Doug Pederson and went to the Superbowl
    - Hired Sirianni and went to the Superbowl.
    - When the coach he hired didn't work, cut bait quick (Chip Kelly)
    Woody Johnson:
    - Hired Todd Bowles missed playoffs.
    - Hired AdamGase missed playoffs
    - Hired Robert Saleh missed playoffs.

    In short, Woody doesn't know who to hire and doesn't cut bait quick if it is clear the coach isn't working.

    It isn't the GM's or coaches or consultants. It is the owner. Woody has to go!
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    There are coaches that make players better, there are coaches that make certain players better and then there are coaches that can succeed in certain situations.

    We hire the third one. Gase was a bad hire and I personally think Saleh was too but nowhere near the level of Gase. Saleh can succeed just like Bowles if things break right because they’re good guys and good defensive coordinators.

    Pederson and Reid (shocking, from the same coaching tree) make the offensive that much better as well as hire a good respectable staff and despite their offensive skills, are true football CEO’s on the sideline and coaching field.
     
  3. barfolomew

    barfolomew Well-Known Member

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    Gase was a waste of years, money, emotion. What a stupid hire.

    Woody can suck wood. I hope you this with your giant glasses you fucking nerd.
     
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  4. dmw

    dmw Well-Known Member

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    Gase was a complete failure in Miami. He was absolutely hated here in Florida. So what do the Jets do: hire the failure.
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    That was just a horrible hire. I don’t remember anyone being excited about it.
     
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  6. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    He did get rid of Pete Carroll . . . too quickly. o_O

    ETA: That was Leon Hess.
     
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  7. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Off the wall, really.
     
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  8. Brook!

    Brook! Soft Admin...2018 Friendliest Member Award Winner

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    That too.
     
  9. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    That was Leon Hess. Woody had hired every coach since Al Groh. Don't recall whether that was his hire or Parcells's hand picked guy to replace him.
     
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  10. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Yes, I just realized that. 1994. After The Spike Game, it was all downhill. I was in the middle of editing, but you got here first.

    Edit: A word: Fake. Left out the word fake. Battin' zip today. o_O
     
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  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That was the "Oh Fuck What Do We Do Now" hire.
     
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  12. BrowningNagle

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    Jets are just wasting time in 2024. Missing out on the best list of candidates to stick with Saleh-Hackett, it will be another 7-10 or worse season.

    And when everyone gets fired next offseason we will end up with some cheap coordinator candidates as HC and some scout as GM, they wont have any connections to each other either
     
  13. The_Darksider

    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    So SOP.
     
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    The_Darksider Well-Known Member

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    Yup, i've been saying this for days. We will have a choice between the equivalent of a homeless bum and a kid wet behind the ears fresh out of college. Setting us back another five years. I'm lucky to see this team get in the playoffs before I start collecting Social Security, which is much closer than I want to admit.
     
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    My personal time line since the Jets won the Superbowl:
    I was in 4th grade when the Jets won it all.
    I'll be retiring soon.
     
  16. JetFanInNE

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    Didn’t Woody’s brother hire Gase?
     
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    He did. Ambassador Dumbass was busy

    Woody can buy an ambassador position but not a division title
     
  18. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Saleh kind of reminds me of a strength & conditioning coach in all honesty. He’s a dude that slaps the edge rushers chest in the weight room after he benches 450. Not a guy who is going to make in game adjustments or out scheme someone. He was also on the verge of being fired until Nick Bosa came along and when Bosa got hurt his defense fell off a cliff compared to what it was with him.

    I voiced a lot of these concerns that he was a glorified hype man and I remember everyone talking about coming from the Shanahan coaching tree and working for Seattle and Pete Carroll and blah blah blah.
     
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  19. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Yup. That was dumpster diving at its finest .
     
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  20. mezzavo

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    I'm all over this! Hell, during my commutes I listen to the NFL channel and THEY are all over it! To a man/woman, on that station, they are ALL talking about the Cowboys SHOULD HAVE fired McCarthy only to get someone like Bill B, Harbaugh or Carroll. Same is being floated in Philly. These are WINNING franchises with WINNING coaches and they are looking to get better! This is the best crop of head coaches in a long time. What do the Jets do? Champion mediocrity and sit on their "shit stick" spinning like they are happy about it. For fucks sake. The ONE damn year that Johnson SHOULD be firing asses and bringing in someone that can actually make a difference is the one year this team fucks it up! This is SOOOOOOOOOOO Jetsy it's not even fucking funny! It really pisses me off!

    Let's face it, Bill B. nor Carroll would come here. It's clear as a bell that Belichek can't stand Johnson. How else do you explain him bolting for New England. The Jets fucked Petey so getting the middle finger from him is expected. But you have Vrabel & Harbaugh sitting out there. I don't care if it takes $200 million and a 10 year contract, you go GET THEM! Not sit around with your thumb up your ass while Saleh and JD put the final screws in the coffin for the next 10 fucking years. It's enough to make a man drink.
     

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