51M if he plays for the jets in 2025, 49M if he doesn't. 2M in savings is he retires or we cut him or trade him. I doubt we'd trade him though
i'm just explaining the scenarios. from Rodgers words today it seems he wants to play in 2025. of course that could change but giving all the info never hurts.
I spent all season listening to him talk about his historic comeback, modalities, his guys, Hackett, blah blah blah. I think Aaron Rodgers really likes having an audience hear him speak and he is definitely lost in his own legend. What Aaron Rodgers says should be treated with suspicion moving forward, don't you think?
thats what Qbs cost and we are deferring the money out because we don't have much. it's why teams with 40+m Qbs struggle if the QB can overcome the issues on the roster elsewhere due to their large salaries. the cap is also going up so the further you defer, the smaller the percentage. rodgers cap/cash works like this (assuming he plays in 2024 only then retires after) cash 2023 37M 2024 38M total 75m in 2 years 37.5M avg. he's tied for 13th highest paid QB in the NFL with carr. slightly above cousins and goff and slightly below jones, prescott, stafford cap hits 2023 9M 2024 17M 2025 49M total 75M spread over 3 years thats what happens when you borrow against the cap
he obviously likes the attention. but he also obviously loves football. when he retires he knows his spotlight will be diminished so he seems like the type to play until he can't anymore physically.
Right. I don’t really care when Rodgers gets paid. I care about the outlook of the team in 2025 when he’s likely gone which is when we get railroaded against the cap. Thats the same year we need to decide if we’re picking up the 5th year option on three of our best players, all of which are going to want to get paid before that’s even an issue and play a premium position. So the great Rodgers pay cut and deferment absolutely fucks us when he’s gone. Didn’t need you to explain any of that to understand how a prorated bonus works.
yeah but in 2025 Rodgers will be 42 years old . Goff, Stafford, Prescott etc those guys are a lot younger. And playing
There’s a pretty high probability that he’s either not on the roster or a shell of his former self with a greatly diminished roster in 2025 because he railroaded the cap. But at least he let us prorate his salary this year and next after free agency this year? Which again is why I wasn’t high fiving everyone when it happened. He wanted the rosters better when he was projecting he’d be here and then we’re going to run it back to 2013 and 2014 when we were in cap hell with backloaded contracts.
Is it me, or are you arguing semantics about what we actually have to pay him versus how it affects the team? $49 million whether it's in one year or or split out as 14/35 in two years is a pretty serious hit. Beyond that, why would anyone give a shit how much money is actually owed? All that matters is the cap.
except you said " That’s why when he restructured something smelled fishy about raving about the pay cut when he can collect a lot of the money in 2025 and 2026. Let’s say he’s nowhere near what he was next year and it’s clear the Jets want to move on from him. He won’t retire and he can do what Matt Ryan did. Force the team to cut them, stay legally active and still get paid while moving on in life. " he isn't collecting anything in 2026 without a new deal, and he only collects in 2025 if the team wants him, otherwise he's owed noting. you made a post claiming we'll have to pay him a bunch of money to not play and it's fishy how he was bragging about a paycut but then when that's proven false it's "I really don't care what he gets paid, and you pivot to just the cap" there is nothing fishy here dude. I'm at the point where I 100% understand if a player says fuck this team. rodgers gave up almost 34m guaranteed of his own money to help the team, and fans are still saying he fucked us over. If I was rodgers i'd tell the fans to fuck off and just retire because honestly with the way some of you guys are, we don't deserve nice things or to be a good team.
^^^^^ i'm not even going to try and absorb all of the different implications if this or if that as described by all of you above, but I will quadruple down on my assertions in various threads here that Aaron Rodgers was not a smart play this year. I would much rather have had a lesser quarterback and kept our picks, left his guys home on the couch or on other rosters, and have the cap space in future years.
because 1 person said the deal was fishy and rodgers was going to leave while getting paid more money from the jets after that which is 100% not true. the deal was extremely team friendly and still is. rodgers didn't fuck us in any way. he gave us back almost 34M dollars that he was already guaranteed and fans are still shitting on him
really? after all the shitting on zach you wanted us to go into the season with zach as the starter again? also the "his guys" were coming no matter what. people have it so backwards here. we hired hackett and brought hacketts guys which included lazard, cobb, and rodgers
So the Jets owe him $51 million agains the cap if he wants to play and $49 million against the cap if they want to move on and cut him in 2025? True or false? Is that a good or bad situation for the Jets on the cap?
that has nothing to do with price per year. that has to do with total years and money. rodgers got a 2 year deal at that price with 75M guaranteed and a 3rd year team option. carr got a 4 year deal at that price with 100m guaranteed. goff got 4 years with 110m guaranteed. stafford got 4 years 130m guaranteed. dak got 4 years 160m guarenteed
it's bad on the cap obviously but still normal when you defer money. the alternative was not paying Q and being over for next years cap to start the offseason. most teams these days do it. saints are 89m over the cap for next year, chargers are 45, bills and fins are 42. were 14m under. 9 teams are over the cap for next year. the jets were gearing up for a 2-3 year run and structured contracts as such even with rodgers on the books for 51m in 2025 we have 90m in cap room better then 8 other teams and we have the 5th most signed players plus the 2022 class in their final year with JJ, sauce, and GW having options for 2026. it's not a bad spot to be in and could also be differed again
