According to OTC, the Jets would basically split the rest of the owed money for next year in half with the other team if they traded him. The dead cap hit after cutting him next year would be ~11.1M but would "only" be ~5.7M if they traded him.
For me, he needs to look like Herbert in his second year or fuck off. I'm not putting up with a 4th season of panic ball.
This was a good game for Zach, 2nd half in particular. I'm not rooting for a tank or against Zach so this was great to see and I hope we see more of this down the stretch. Really cool to see some real offense from our team I'm also not forgetting how Zach has looked for 2.5 years up to this point though. He's been one of the worst QBs in the NFL that whole time. Let's see how he looks in the weeks ahead. I'm not counting on sustained success and fully expect duds ahead given his history. But it would make things interesting if he strings more games together like this.
Best game of Zach's career by far- hopefully improved his trade value. The issue with Zach & has always been, can he stack a few good games together? The answer has been resounding no to date.
Yeah, this is bullshit. You really think they informed Zach he was being traded right before his start yesterday? GTFO. People believe anything these days. LOLJETS for clicks. Don't click the link, these clowns don't deserve the ad revenue.
The truth is Zach was not good his 1st two years here. We can debate the reasons, but Flacco, White and Johnson were all significantly better than him. With all that said, the OLine and WRs we have now - ie weapons surrounding the QB are very similar to what the Jets had at the end of last year. Last year when AVT was injured, then CMG rapidly declined and performed much worse at the end than earlier, and the OLine towards the end of the year was like what you see now. Actually WR core now is even worse, since Corey Davis and Moore were actually decent. And you saw what Flacco and White did at the end of the year. They couldn't do shit at the end of the year with a similar line we have this year, which is probably at all time worst. That's why when you guys point to Flacco playing decent for the Browns, saying he would do better here, I disagree. I saw how he did without the line. How he did against Miami is what he would have done here. We've seen this movie play out already. Flacco at this stage of his career is not getting any better. However, Zach is getting better. He is still struggling, he still fumbles a lot, holds on to the ball, but I think he is a better player than last year by a lot and appears to be improving. Stats also improved. Passer rating is career high at 78, yards per game are over 200, passing % over 60, all by far career high. And this is in spite of awful OLine and worse WR than last year. Again this is not to say Zach is now a starting NFL QB, but I doubt guys like Flacco, Johnson, and White would do much better behind this OLine.
this source doesn't have team sources, they cover BYU and broke the news about the jets wanting zach in the draft. they are more in tuned with zachs family then anyone on the team. edit: not saying i believe it. I need more then 1 source, just saying they seem to have an in with zachs family
My take was they did it to cool things down... don't think for a minute that they didn't realize just how bad both were... JD got these stiffs because he didn't want another Mike White scenario and HC played the role well as front man in this show...
not sure why this is a take at all. MLF is the OC there and him and zach didn't get along well from reports which led to MLF being let go
Nice summary. We keep going back to Zach past two year performance which is meaningless to me. Everyone and his brother realized he was not NFL ready, except may be JD and RS, and that’s why he was put on a developmental program. Unfortunately, once again he was trusted into a starting role and that was another mistake… waay too soon, not ready for prime time especially with this new system. You can debate all day long that with the second pick you expect a starter but that was not on Zach, that’s on JD. To throw him out there with all his shortcomings because he was a high pick was utter horse shit and another way to screw up a rookie QB. Having said that, I also see how much he has grown in some areas since then and his raw skills are coming into play, particularly behind this line, hand cuffing him for any long passes to avoid mistakes, and with just 2 available targets he can throw to, Conklin and Wilson. The rest simply suck. To think an immobile QB like Flacco would do better is laughable, and what he is doing in Cleveland has zero translation to what he would do here.
Zach is growing on me. Afraid to even type this since I was onboard with trading the #2 and never thought he can mentally make it in NYC. But physically I was never and don't believe nobody else was ever down on his traits which are elite. Let Rodgers work the magic on him for one more year. This year he's put a few nice games that gives me hope to stay the course. Crazy to say. Stash him for one more year.
We'll never know, but I suspect that when Douglas took Zach with the #2 pick, he was thinking that he had another Mahomes situtation: a kid with huge talent that needed development, just like Mahomes got in KC. The problem is that they never gave him that. IDK why. Was it because Woody forced them to play Zach right away? Or did they refuse to pay for a good QB for Zach to sit and learn behind? I think the latter. And then they compounded everything by having a rookie, defensive-minded HC, and a rookie OC who was inflexible. I think the decision to let MLF go and get Hackett and Rodgers was a tacit admission of what they should've done in the beginning. As anyone who watched the game yesterday saw, you don't find QBs with Zach's abilities very easily. I think JD's original plan was to use that #2 pick and snap up an elite, but raw, QB, and develop him like KC did with Mahomes, but for whatever reason they didn't execute that plan.
