So you’re telling me the first play on this highlight is ineligible man down field based on what you’re describing. The center is 3 yards down field before the eligible passer (QB) passes the LOS. Same with this. They have lineman about 7-8 yards downfield before the QB passes the LOS.
Justin Fields on a WR screen, tucks it and runs instead 56 yards for a touchdown shoulda been called back though cause 3 linemen were downfield lol. number 67 even gave a key block!
I'm gonna eat this one. (BTW I hate how the NFL playbook is written) but they don't call an illegal downfield until the ball leaves the QBs hand. had zach threw it away a second later it would have been a flag he could have taken off there (still rare and not the way a screen is coached) last time he tried to extend a broken screen was a disaster and dumb Basically plays are both a run and pass play at the snap until certain conditions are met to tip it either way. " SECTION 3 INELIGIBLE PLAYER DOWNFIELD ARTICLE 1. LEGAL AND ILLEGAL ACTS. On a scrimmage play during which a legal forward pass is thrown, it is a foul if the entire body of an ineligible offensive player, including a T-Formation Quarterback, is more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage before the pass has been thrown." Funny enough we got called on one 2 weeks ago when a lineman whiffed on a block so hard his momentum took him upfield and he wasn't engaged with a blocker
I was wrong. I dug through the rule book and posted it below. but your examples are an engaged blocker which has different rules from an illegible man downfield. lineman can go downfield all they want if they are engaged whether it's a pass or run. doesn't matter. it's only unengaged blockers that would count so while I was wrong, your 2 examples aren't the proof needed. I posted the NFL playbook article explaining it.
I do love being dragged into this, called a know it all, and criticizing my HS football career (over a decade ago too lol). However, I don’t even really disagree with you. It would’ve been a heady play to see him run off but I think it’s somewhat of an unfair criticism by Baldinger. And I imagine you can’t find any of these plays because they usually don’t go anywhere more than a yard or two since the QB is generally under pressure. Try searching QB run broken screen and you get 40 yard designed runs by Lamar Jackson. I’ve seen them, maybe moreso in college but it’s definitely a thing. They’re just minimal gains if that so the internet isn’t bustling with clips of them.
In the Ravens example, they’re not engaged until they get down field so again I don’t really know what you’re talking about. And honestly I don’t really care but you did your usual word pretzel to try to look smarter than everyone and as usual come off as a pompous jackass by everyone’s account who reads your posts. But carry on.
thats not even a screen lol I was wrong but thats not even a screen pass lol. it was an RPO, he had the option to hand it off, quick pass to the WR or take off with it. also enagged blockers have different rules then unenaged blockers
hey man, you know what I learned something new here. I never mind digging into the rulebook. you can be a dick but at least a reasonable one. Baldy is disappointing because he's click baiting angry jet fans wih that nonsense. zach has plenty of actual mistakes on film. he doesn't need to make ones up. I would be impressed though if you could find where a QB ever scrambled on a broken screen in the NFL though. I can't find a single example which is crazy given all the random off the wall plays that happen once in a blue moon in the NFL.
in the ravens clip. 64 stayed engaged with 50 until he engaged the 2nd level. 72 stayed engaged with 56 until he enaged 54. but it was a RPO so they draw it up that way in case lamaar does throw then it's not a penalty. NFL classifies enagged as touching apparently which is why MC got flagged for chop block when becton just had a hand on the D-lineman
yup and I researched the rulebook and admitted it. you should try it sometime when your wrong. I'm just happy to have learned something
I know you posted this before the other vids but seems like you couldn't find it either after posting this. they always just dirt the ball and move on
always willing to. wish more had the mentality. it's still funny though I went to the rulebook to prove myself wrong, and your attempt you posted a video of an RPO with engaged blockers and called it a screen but we'll just ignore that.
and thats why I do. still can't admit when your wrong on something but always accuse others of doing that. then going right for the attack. Even when i've purposely been a dick to people I haven't gotten banned. you've been banned for being yourself lol
what are you even talking about now, its exhausting. You are the one who was wrong. I thought we were past that. You cannot get an ineligible man downfield call on a run play
I was wrong on that, but you were wrong on your video too. it was an RPO not a WR screen and the lineman were engaged. you just gloss over it instead of admitting it. Look I admitted I was wrong. man up and admit yours too and learn and move on liek an adult like I did. also admit that running was not the right move there. even the person you like agreed with that
I could be wrong but you obviously dont know what the fuck you are talking about. So I'm taking your thoughts here with a grain of salt
