um it's called watching him play. I literally gave the whole list of why he was overrated and why his stats were so good. all you did was google a number
Nobody said anything about running on every play, they’re just not running enough and they’re being out coached. You said it yourself: they run on first down and gain a yard. Of course they’re not going to be successful if they’re that predictable. If you think they should be throwing this much with Zach Wilson at QB I think maybe you need to watch the games.
Not really. His post is based on people supposedly saying we should run on every play. Nobody is saying that. That would be worse than letting Zach Wilson throw 40 times a game.
Imagine the Jets came out with the Army triple option offense against the Bills next week? Could the results be that much worse? 3.5 yards per play gets us a first down every time.
Good team to juxtapose next to the Jets. The Steelers have a putrid offense but their QB makes plays late in games and they have a very good head coach. For what it’s worth I think Pickett sucks.
pickens makes plays as the WR2. i've seen him bail out some shit throws from pickett. the defense also gets timely turnovers. in 5 of their 6 wins the D forced a turnover in the final 2 mins. they have forced 8 turnover this year in the final 3.5 mins of games. TJ watt is a beast and tomlin is a great coach. they've also had some luck where for us shit never seems to go our way there are lots of parallels though to the 2 teams. the big difference I see is coaching and having more then 1 legit WR
And I'm supposed to accept your judgement from solely watching him play, as if you are an expert on what makes a running back great versus the performance of the offensive line? You must be a blast to chat with during March Madness.
no but i assume we all here have watched him play. he went down on 1st contact almost all the time. had no agility to make people miss, no power to run through tackles, and no breakaway speed. he would just hit the hole and go down but the holes were good so he racked up stats. outside of his durability and ball security he offered nothing that was above JAG level. he made "stars" of lots of RBs with that o-line then went on to do nothing after.
I watched every game he played. I could not disagree more with the above statement. He was an absolute workhorse, and busted his tail for every yard he gained. I question your ability to judge talent, and comprehend football strategy based on the pure ignorance you have displayed in the above statements. Then how do you explain the 1,100 yards per season he gained with the Chicago Bears for the prior three seasons before joining the Jets? Did the oh-so-conveniently have an elite offensive line too? For heaven's sake, he had played nine years at that point, and started to break down. You would too if you had been tackled over 2,000 times in your life. He played one less season than Walter Payton did. I am not suggesting he was anywhere near the running back that Payton was, but he certainly was as durable.
so are you saying he could break tackles, make people miss, and had breakaway speed? yes he was a work horse, yes he was reliable, yes he had ball security, yes he stayed healthy. volume. he averaged over 300 carries a year in a 5 year span between us and the bears. the bears had a very good line as well and we had an elite one. thats the issue with stats. they don't tell a whole story. remember when the giants almost had 3 1000 yard rushers and they all went on to do jack shit after? washington and greene looked far superior behind out o-line. do you not remember everyone wanting greene to get more carries over TJ and being mad he wasn't? I understand the breaking down and not going to fault a guy for getting old and beat up so won't mention his time in KC after he left us. I liked jones for what he was. but talent wise he was pretty average. he was just durable and reliable and good enough, but he was never the talent level his numbers suggested. he's actually 26th all time in career rushing yards. no way he is a top 30 back of all time lol. he's just in front of guys like tiki, lynch, george, and ricky williams and right behind jamaal lewis, waters, and dunn. he's nowhere near the level those guys were.
It wasn't typical, but at times he absolutely broke tackles and could make people miss. He was NOT blessed with enormous speed, but it wasn't necessary. Did I call that one. Like I said, he was underrated. Thank you for proving my point.
he had one of the lowest broken tackle rate in the NFL year in and year out. it was a constant discussion on every jet board how he went down from a slight breeze. and jokes about how he skips leg days and big arms don't break tackles. his speed was bare minimum for a power back but he wasn't a power back either. because it's true? how does that prove your point? if total yards was the measure of success, then eli manning is a top 10 QB all time lol.
Far be it for me to expect a staunch advocate of Zach Wilson to have faith in statistics of any kind.
The Jets can't run the ball because defenses are putting extra pressure on stopping the run. They are not concerned with Wilson's ability to pass the ball. I don't fault the O line for this. Any team with a decent defense can stop the run if they put most of their resources in to accomplish it. Lack of run ability will likely continue to plague the Jets until Wilson demonstrates to the league that he can beat you with his arm. (Yeah, like that'll happen!)
Thomas Jones stayed healthy by avoiding contact as much as possible, to the point where he would fall backwards into approaching tacklers sometimes when the hole wasn't there. But he was able to be really productive because of that prolonged health. He is overrated by a lot of Jets fans though.
i'm far from an advocate. and advocate would say he shouldn't have gotten rodgers and he can still be the future. but I don't expect someone who can't even see that to be reasonable. you calling me an advocate would be like me saying you want him dead. it's an over exaggeration of what we are saying
