Opening Drives

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Jets opening drives on the season in the 8 games: 7 Punts, 1 fumble (Zach Wilson strip-sacked vs Giants).

    The opening drive is a good indicator on the offensive coordinator's performance as he scripts his plays during the week to match the opponents weaknesses. Even Adam Gase performed well on the opening drive.

    What does this say about Nathaniel Hackett?
     
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    Well scripted, Nate!
     
  3. NJJets

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    Serious question- what has Zach’s opening drive performance been over his career? Was he scoring TD’s and/or FG’s his past 2 years on opening drives?
     
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    Savatage Well-Known Member

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    How many were 3 & out?
     
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    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Hackett still sux
     
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    Maybe we can bring Gase back.
     
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    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    I can’t believe the jets have opted for a second Hackett. Actually, yes I can.
     
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    I hated the Hackett hire and said so at the time…awful…what it is about this franchise that just loves to hire coaches that have totally flopped or failed miserably is beyond me.

    The only way I got my head around Hackett is because Rodgers wanted him…and I equate it to kind of like Gase with Peyton…they looked like good OCs with star QBs like Rodgers and Peyton, just like McDaniels looked good with Brady, but it was the QB’s driving the bus not the other way around.

    And yeah, I know the talk track about Hackett making Bortles look good…blah blah blah…clearly he’s lost that magic touch because Zach looks totally horrific…though to be fair I doubt there’s an OC in the league that can make Zach look good
     
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  9. JackBower

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    Why stop at this year.

    I guess it's the point about Hackett, but how many opening scores did they have last year in an entire season? I'll guess 4.
     
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    Try checking out our 3rd down conversion ratio, its the worst of all-time, in the teens, no-one is even close, to how bad we are.
     
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  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I looked it up. It’s crazy. they all were 3& outs except the Bills game and the Eagles game

    in the bills game Breece Hall had a long run before Rodgers got hurt. The Jets would punt 3 plays later

    in the eagles game the Jets got a holding penalty and punted 3 plays later.

    Zach Wilson has never picked up a 1st down on an opening drive, non penalty
     
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    You are an NFL offensive coordinator and Zach Wilson is your quarterback. You try giving him the standard playbook to start—slants, digs, outs, nine routes. You soon discover that, because of his size, he can’t throw slants. Because he’s never on time and he’s inaccurate, he can’t throw out routes. You watch in horror as he dirts easy swing routes. What you soon learn is that Zach Wilson’s lone strength as a a passer is his ability to fire a fastball into the hashes into a receiver’s chest when Zach can see their numbers. He also has a strong arm, so maybe you can incorporate a few deep sideline passes, but you find out that he’s a little gutless and doesn’t want to wait in the pocket long enough to throw those passes. By midseason, you’ve edited your playbook down to about three pages of comebacks, curls, and a few other patterns where Zach can hold the ball for three seconds and throw it as hard as he can into someone’s numbers. Uninformed Jets bloggers and professional trolls like Dab Orlovsky pluck a few plays out of context where you called one of the few plays in existence that you think Zach Wilson can run and they slander you.
     
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    DAM. You’re right. Never even looked at it like that.
     
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    #15 BrooklynJetsFan, Nov 11, 2023
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    Conklin broke wide open over the middle too.
     
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    Numbers don't lie but they can blind you
     
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    "One thousand one, one thousand two, THROW THE GODDAMN BALL!" That's become my Jets chant every game.
    This video illustrates the frustration many of us feel. The lack of anticipation and ability to "throw guys open", instead of waiting for them to BE open. You just can't play the position that way at this level.
     
  19. LAJet

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    SOJAZ. Agree with everything except the impatience at waiting in the pocket. He holds the ball ENTIRELY too long because he doesn’t see the open man fast enough. Also his propensity to scramble backwards instead of throwing the ball away is painfully bad.
     
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    Plays like this make the OLine look way worse than it is. Not saying our OLine is great or even good to average. Just these are plays that really don’t count as a true sack.
     
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