Complete gm fail

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  1. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    This was an old avatar of mine for a reason. The agita persists either way.
     
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  2. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Is all the complaining still a little weird to you, though? o_O
     
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  3. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, JD went for Siemian. I mean Boyle and Siemian as your back-ups when Wentz was asking to come. Nothing at trade deadline with Ezra Cleveland available for cheap, when we need OLine and WR help. Just seems like he did a great job on defense and then completely fumbled the ball on offense. Really all offensive signings look terrible right now. Lazard, Cook, Hardman, Turner, Cobb, Wes, Duane (not new signing, but option picked up this year), low rated QBs. Even Rodgers didn't contribute at all due to getting hurt behind porous OLine. There is no sugar coating it, for as good as he made the defense, he constructed the offense the opposite, just as bad.
     
  4. IDFjet

    IDFjet Well-Known Member

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    Glad you pointed this out--its just malpractice we're seeing with JD.
     
  5. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    I'm not playing this moving goal posts game....
     
  6. Jedi mind tricks

    Jedi mind tricks Well-Known Member

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    Oh you got it wrong buddy he definitely, totally, absolutely planned to get Devante Adams! The only reason he's not here is because of the raiders. You can't blame JD he definitely did everything he could to get him! Blame the raiders!
     
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  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    an organization with some balls
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Trevor Siemien is on the practice squad not the active roster. Doesn't the General Manager have to be the one to add him to the roster?

    just trying to make sense of Saleh's "plead the 5th" quote. He cannot start Siemien even if he wanted to because he's not on the active roster. Ie. ask that question of Joe Douglas....
     
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    I interpreted the plead-the-Fifth comment as an admission that either Douglas or Woody is tying Saleh's hands and forcing him to play Wilson.

    I doubt that it's Douglas. Douglas knows that more losing and more poor play from Wilson could cost Douglas his job. Woody, on the other hand, doesn't have to worry about being fired.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    it was Joe Douglas who drafted Zach Wilson in the first place, who let his competition go to Miami in free agency, who hasn't brought in anyone despite Wilson's struggles, etc.

    I dont know why you think he isn't capable of tying Saleh's hands, he is and he has
     
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    IDFjet Well-Known Member

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    If, big if, Woody is not involved in this bs he should fire JD today and let an assistant who gets along well with Saleh take the position.
     
  12. stinkyB

    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    Unless he knows playing Zach won't effect his job security.....
     
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  13. Losmeister

    Losmeister Well-Known Member

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    Trevor sieman.. that's an indictment
     
  14. Trainer

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    Woody is the one who stood in front of the press at the end of the season and said the problem is quarterback, so it's not like he's clueless to Zach's faults. Part of it may be the money committed to the position, plus whatever backroom deal they have with Rogers post-career. I can't come up with any other reason these guys would willingly flush their careers down the drain while the whole country laughs at their decisions.
     
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    Same with the 9ers bailing on Trey Lance....and they paid a lot to move to get him.
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    no they won't, but they will be worse without him. unless the plan is to tank for a higher pick, there isn't a reason to bench him.
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I just watched the whole interview and that clip is so out of context it's dumb
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    only 1? what about CMG? what about the top backup in schwietzer? we have OT3 playing RG right now and OT4 playing RT
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    it's not. the idea that white would be doing better right now is moot, but it's likely he would have been knocked out of the lineup already based on his history. he also hasn't played well as of late
     
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    This is the real problem…we literally have no better options. That’s on JD…and I’ve been a HUGE JD supporter. But his failure to upgrade the back up QB position is all on him.

    I can begrudgingly understand his reluctance to upgrade Zach as backup because AR has proven to be very durable so he probably assumed Zach wouldn’t have to play much if at all this year. We can debate whether that was a good assumption at the time (in hindsight clearly it wasn’t) since he DID have a 39 year old QB behind a mediocre OL with a history of injury issues.

    However, once AR went down in week 1, I can’t get behind JD’s approach. He could have signed someone like Foles or Wentz off the street…and sure they were on the street for a reason but both of those guys have played better in their careers than Zach ever has…and would have been decent backup options. Or better yet, we could have traded for other guys like Brissett (rumors are he would have been available but who knows if those rumors are true) or Dobbs (who WAS available and was traded). There WERE some options out there. We chose Siemian. And we won’t even let him play.

    I’d even be ok with bringing Siemian into a game off the bench if Zach continues to suck.

    Not that Siemian is necessarily better than Zach, but sometimes just a change sparks a team. If because the other players react better to the other guy like they did with Mike White, whatever.

    Sometimes you just need a change to show that you’re not going to tolerate such bad play. The way we’ve coddled Zach despite all the evidence is just mindboggling to me.
     
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