what was the BS roughing call? you mean when #29 went nuts after they got a big stop, and then smashed grahms face (front of helmet) with his own? that huge, blatent penalty? that wasnt BS... as far as the rivers hit on the spike....i dont know where you saw h2h on that....he got pushed. i do think they should have called the defense on that. they go through all these rules to protect the qbs nowadays, and on a spike play, theres no reason for the defense to put their hands on the qb. i was shocked that they didnt call that a personal foul. if anything it was a late hit since the ball was dead and play was over. it was a cheap shot...no question. i do think rivers tried to sell it a little also though...
And that makes it ok for the Patriots to mock them? Give me a break, for a team thats supposed to be one of the classiest, that kind of stuff is unreal. Of course you expect players to do it, but that doesn't make it OK, its still a classless move. here i bought these for you.
Stuff goes on after every play in the NFL. Things are said. After the game, the winner celebrates and the loser goes home. When the loser has to be restrained by his teammates from physically going after the other team, then the same player rips into the other team and coach in the media for doing something his team does as well, then that guy is the classless punk. Thanks for the fish, braugh. I guess Ranger fans are in the right too for saying Potvin sucks 27 years after a legal check injured their guy.
Why do you think Tomlinson went after Hobbs? Because he was acting like a classless ass-hole rubbing it in and taking his helmet off and mocking the Bolts along with other Pats players. And you wanna blame Tomlinson for this mess? You show class on the road, you win the game shake hands and thats it. Finger pointing, mocking, excessive celbrations on the other teams turf is disrespectful and classless any way you look at it... unless you're a patriots fan i guess.
I am pretty sure that the last person that anyone in the league will call a "classless punk" is LT2. The guy had 31 opportunities to show-up the other team and handed the ball to official everytime. I can't fault him for getting pissed like that since he treats other teams with respect win or lose.
Me? A Patriots fan? No way. But I also don't let my dislike of a particular team cloud my judgements. Hobbs took his helmet off after the game? My word!!!! What a horrible horrible thing to do. He should be punched immediately. What happened after that game happens at every game where the road team wins. After the game, a few players on the other team turn around and laugh at the crowd. A few players take their helmet off and scream that they were disrespected, and that this is THEIR HOUSE now... Etc Etc. Every game. The players on the team that lose need to go straight to the locker room if this bothers them, or deal with it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2731727 It was bad enough losing to New England, but the way the Patriots reacted to their AFC divisional playoff win is what made LaDainian Tomlinson lose his cool. The San Diego Chargers running back, upset that some Patriots were dancing on the Chargers logo at midfield after they had silenced the record crowd of 68,810 at Qualcomm Stadium, went after an unidentified Patriots player, yelling and pointing, and had to be restrained by a teammate and former Charger Reche Caldwell, who had a huge game for the Patriots. "I would never react in that way. I was very upset," Tomlinson said. "When you go to the middle of our field and start doing the dance Shawne Merriman is known for, that is disrespectful. They showed no class and maybe that comes from the head coach." Merriman, nicknamed "Lights Out," did a spasmodic dance to celebrate each of his NFL-high 17 sacks. Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers said he saw some Patriots pointing to the scoreboard, mimicking the dance, and stomping on the Chargers logo at midfield. "I think what got LT, and I was right there, was just a little of the taunting," Rivers said, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. "Hey, celebrate -- we'd have been sprinting on the field, too, I guarantee you. But it was a little finger pointing and I don't know where it came from." "It was upsetting to see because they won three Super Bowls," Merriman said, according to the Boston Herald. "It's like a guy on a fast break in basketball and dunking the ball and getting excited. You've won three Super Bowls. You don't do that." "When you go to the middle of our field and start doing the dance Shawne Merriman is known for, that is disrespectful. They showed no class and maybe that comes from the head coach." The Patriots rallied from eight points down in the fourth quarter. Tom Brady threw a touchdown pass to Caldwell with under five minutes remaining, then executed a fake on a direct snap to running back Kevin Faulk that helped spring the tying two-point conversion. Steven Gostkowski added a field goal with 1:10 to play to give the Patriots a 24-21 lead, and Chargers kicker Nate Kaeding missed his 54-yard attempt to tie in the final seconds. The bottom line: No matter how they responded to the win, the Patriots are headed to next week's AFC Championship Game in Indianapolis against the Colts. "They won and they deserve a lot of credit," Rivers said, according to the Union-Tribune. "Personally I was disappointed in the way they handled winning. ... But that's neither here nor there. They're playing next week and we're not." "We lost to a better team today," Tomlinson said. "Hopefully the next opportunity we have we'll learn something from this." Tomlinson ran for 123 yards and two scores, and caught two passes for 64 yards in the loss. The Patriots and Chargers are scheduled to meet again in Foxboro next season, and some Chargers already have the date circled. "Every time I will play New England it will be a personal grudge," linebacker Shaun Phillips said, according to the Union-Tribune. "That was very classless. ... When we went in and beat their head in New England [last season] ... we did nothing but compliment them and say they were a good team. We would never disrespect a team like that." At least one Patriots player did not think the lack of class was so one-sided. "[The San Diego players] talked from the beginning to the end," linebacker Rosevelt Colvin said, according to the Union-Tribune. "We'll take the win."
I agree 100% and I'm a huge Islander fan. The Pats - the team that everyone glorifies, acted like a bunch of HS kids who knocked off the #1 team in the state. I thought they had been there before???? It goes to show they take their lead from their coach, who has shown this year that when you look under classless in the dictionary you see his picture. The bottom line is that the Pats escaped yesterday. They were outplayed, outmuscled, out-everythinged. The only reason the Pats won is because the Chargers made 4 or 5 of the dumbest plays I have ever seen in postseason and gave the Pats too many second chances. Those second chances led to at least 11 Patriot points. Take those away and 21-13 is about right for the score of that game.
It would be great if the NFL made the opener next year, NE-SD. Seeing as they are scheduled to play each other next year, I think it is a definite possiblity. (I am assuming the schedule hasn't been released yet, right?)
I want the Patriots to lose as much as the next man, but all this "Patriots have no class" talk is pure sour grapes. They have their @ssholes just like any other team....it just gets magnified when you've won 3 Superbowls in 5 years. Newsflash: if the Jets are ever lucky enough to be the top franchise in the NFL...fans of other teams will call us "classless" as well. And I won't give a sh*t then either.
Hobbs took his helmet off during the game along with a number of Patriots, perhaps if you had been watching the game you would know what you're talking about seeing as the Pats got a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct for taking helmets off on the field.
Fair point. I was out to dinner. Still, why would that be a valid reason for Tomlinson to lose his cool?
Gee, I wonder why the Pats have all that pent up hostility... From the very classy Chargers rally before the game: http://youtube.com/watch?v=yHyLlL01tGA
Because he doesn't want people showing him up in his home. All players feel the way he did, he just took it a step further which i felt was warranted considering the Pats were taunting him and the rest of the Bolts.
OK, this is getting ridiculous. As if the all teams don't do things to each other. As if all teams don't taunt. As if all teams don't celebrate. Get over it. You're supposed to be men for Pete's sake. Oh, that's right. The chargers and fans that hate the Pats are holier than thou. Please. Don't do a taunt dance if you don't want to be taunted. Don't talk trash all week if you can't accept it at the end of the day (not directed to LT.) LT can feel upset, he is one hell of a player who left it all out on the field, but for everyone else to hop on the "classless" bandwagon board, I call BS. The Jets rubbed it in our muddy faces after they beat us. Boo-hoo. Who cares. They beat our asses and did whatever they wanted. Right in front of Brady no less. Didn't hear you guys calling out your players, and you shouldn't have. It's football, get over it.
Good point DW. But like you said, its football, so clearly many fans are gonna be a little bias in their opinion... not me though. :grin:
And I can accept that. We all are bias in our own way. I just think it is getting a bit ridiculous now. And, it wasn't even on TV, so we are just letting our minds run with it at this point. Even as a Pats fan, I can say that it was a stupid move if they (and by they I mean the 1-5-ish guys that did it), did it, but please, is this what we've come to as men? It's a game. Rub dirt on the wound and get up and get over it. (not directed at you Frank, just a general statement.)
OK, here is some San Diego class: From LT... verry classy: And, after they beat our ass in in Foxboro last year: And:
