we also need, desperately need a FB. i would love to see brian leonard get in here and be that guy. he has all the tools to be a solid player. i may be a bit biased because of where my loyalties are, but the guy is a very good. RU rah rah, RU rah rah urah, urah Rutgers rah. upstream redteam, readteam upstream rah, rah Rutgers rah. RU' 95
No thanks... not unless it's in the 7th round (I know, you'll tell me Kiper and others say 2nd round.. I'll pass before the 7th). We do not need to draft a fullback... we just need a blocking FB.. Leonard isn't really what I'd call a fullback. To me, he's a tailback that got beaten out but was the best option at fullback
Maroney and dillon can easily be workhorses if they wanted to use them that way. we have 1 goood rb we need 1 more full time one. washington can be our bush now we need deuece and the rbs we have houston,barlow,blaylock couldnt hold deuce jockstrap even after the acl injury he is still way more talanted than any of those guys.
you dont need premier backs to run a runningback by committee. if we had one premier back thered be no discussion. i think its funny because our OL can pass block people assume the problem with our running game is our RB's. when in fact our OL is horrible at run blocking. i say we address OL and if we can pickup someone via FA then go ahead and trade for a portis or turner. everyone is expecting to find some diamond in the rough when its just not likely. if the trade options are even somewhat viable Tanny will jump on it. if they are not then we wont. plain and simple. either way we know the FO is more concerned with nabbing a 3-4DE id say RB is 3rd or 4th on their priority list. otherwise talking anymore about it will let GM's hold players for ransom.
i really dont understand these post's and posters who think that RB's are a dime a dozen...yea average running backs are a dime a dozen, but the Jets need a guy who can be a difference maker. Look at these teams... Addai- on his way to being a star Duece/Bush- Both stars Maroney/Dillion-don't even evaluate Maroney to Leon bc its no contest Thomas Jones- Beast this year.. and these are the only team left in the playoffs. In order to make it deep into the playoffs you need a workhorse and a very good star RB, bc they get so many touches, you need to have a guy who has playmaking ability. Personally I think Turner is the best option because of the way he can gain yardage on the inside runs. I am so sick of seeing Leon and Houston and Barlow hitting the line and going down like a ton of bricks. Dont get me wrong, Leon has a role on this team as a good player but not an everydown back. RB is the #1 Priority this year, it needs to be because if we go the offseason without getting a playmaking running back then the Jets will be lucky to make it to the playoffs seeing their schedule next year, let alone go further into the playoffs.
So let me get this straight.. You would rather stick it out with Leon, 5'8 scatback, Washington and either Cedric Houston or Kevan Barlow, rather than trade a 1st day pick (most likely a 1st or 2nd rounder) to either San Diego, Washington, Chicago or Dallas for either Michael Turner, Clinton Portis, Thomas Jones or Julius Jones. Right. We almost had Jones last season when Dallas wanted a 2nd rounder and we offered a 3rd, whats to say Dallas does not take that deal this time around with the emergence of Marion Barber III?
Thanks for reminding me about this deal. I'd revisit this for our later 2nd rounder. Jones has some miles on him too but he certainly will be the cheapest, and the easiest to get.
Exactly Chicago-Thomas Jones and Chris Benson Indy-Domini Rhodes and Josseph Addai New Orleans-Deuce McAllister and Reggie Bush New England-Corey Dillon,Laurence Maroney and Kevin Faulk
Did you guys watch the late game at all yesterday? San Diego has mammoth linemen and both the Chargers and Pats employ two or three TEs to spring their running backs. LT's talent is superb, but he's playing behind a wall of beef and a for a coach who's totally committed to running the ball. What did Michael Turner do yesterday except run through gigantic holes in the line and go down when he got tackled. Joe Willie is right...Becht was an exceptional run blocker who the Jets have not replaced, just as they have not replaced Jason Ferguson at NT and did not replace Abraham at pass rush. On the other hand, the Jets have done well filling the RB hole. Both Washington and Houston have shown excellent ability to gain yards, make plays and make people miss behind a below average run-blocking unit, featuring 2 rookies, and a cast-off from one of the worst teams in football last year. I am not opposed to exploring trades to strengthen the running game or drafting a back after the 2nd round, but this team still is woefully small and thin along the line of scrimmage.
we "just need a blocking fb"????? did you really say that? you know that we happen to run the WCO with a little shotgun mixed in for good measure, right? i agree the FB needs to block, but he needs to catch the ball too. leonard is a very solid choice for this. i really wouldnt mind seeing the jets use their first pick to get turner from SD, use a 2nd rounder on BL, and maybe on day 2 get clark harris. CB should be addressed through FA with the like of either assante samuel or nate clemens. RT...imho....should be addressed by signing langston walker (FA from oak-6'8" 345 lbs) NT is another position that can be filled, or at least looked at through FA. Terdell Sands is a CHUD baby just like walker. have him, pouha, and moore on a rotation there, and slide Dslob over to DE. Dslob could even play some NT as well. as far as some of the other draft picks go, we should get another NT (doesnt need to be a high pick to be good, look at our old friend fergie). draft another OL....depending on what they do in FA (like signing CHUD baby LW) and resigning clements, we could draft a big fat interior lineman. a back up guard. i think teague is still on the roster next year so he can back up mangold. drafting a LB is important (OLB most likely) for depth there. i know everyone is blowing lance briggs, but thats a ton of $$$ that could be better spent. btw, i dont think BL wasnt playing HB because he wasnt good enough to play over rice. hes a good fit at FB, and having him block for RR was a smart move by GS. how many FBs do you know get ANY heisman hype? i cant remember one....except for BL. the kid has all the tools to be great. i just hope he attains that greatness as BlowJob askews replacement.
i rather turner even at the higher pricetag than JJ....i like jones dont get me wrong, but hes def in the middle of the second tier of RBs...if were gonna make a move to get one, i say it be made to make the team a lot better. i think portis has way too many miles on him, and its def showed. betts outplayed him this year. the only backup RB worth trading for (to really improve the ground game) is turner....i dont like the whole 1st rounder but id be willing to do it since hes young, not much wear and tear, the fact that when hes in, hes making something happen, and schotty knows him. his weakness'and stregnths. i think turner would be a great fit here. if we didnt trade for him, i dont know who id rather have...JJ or TJ....maybe at that point id look at the price as the mitigating factor.
lets not forget that between LT and the OL is the best blocking FB over the last 10 years...lorenzo neal... but the jets doing an excellent job filling the rb hole? how is this? leon was good this year, but houston had a hard time staying on the field. and last time i looked, houston doesnt make anyone miss, he charges at them. leon is the guy that makes plays....the rest of the RBs arent nearly as talented as leon is. and leon isnt THE answer. we need to dump blaylock for sure...and then either barlow or houston goes (tough call b/c barlow has 1000 yd season under his belt and ran with a bum leg this year). we need another RB...one that is better than at least 3/4 of who we already have. nobody is questioning LW ability, but he def fits in as a great 3rd down back. we need a featured back. the whole RbC wont float another season with the lack of talent we have at the position.
The Pats still use 3 RB's, Chicago uses two, NO uses Bush and McAllister equally and Rhodes gets plenty of snaps behind Addai. None of these teams have a single true feature RB. Even Tannenbaum recently said RBBC is the way of the future. Having just one RB to hang your hat on is dangerous. Look at how awful Seattle was when Alexander was out with an injury. Using two or even three RB's keeps all of them fresh for the entire game. McAllister finally got through a season without a major injury. Bush lightened his workload which helped, and getting fewer snaps also makes it less likely to get injured. What would happen to KC if Larry Johnson got hurt? The whole offense is geared around him. The days of one single feature back are rapidly disappearing, and Tannenbaum said as much. It's more about having some versatilty and using different RB's in different situations to create mismatches and unpredictabilty.
I agree...How anyone can watch duece saturday night and not want him immediately is beyond me....the guy has 3 or 4 excellent years in him and we can win a superbolw in 2 years...shove the draft picks up your ass...gimme deuce and lets win a superbowl.....People love to take the talent away from the running back. Its all O-line. no. Its a combo. No doubt we need an upgrade on the Oline but theres also no doubt we need an upgrade at RB.....its like that bullshit argument that Emmit Smith sucked, it was all because of the line. shaaaddddap, thats nonsense, complete nonsense. We need a horse like Deuce for the first time in a long long time.....I want him now!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fine. we can have RBBC as well....but who makes up your committee is very important...yo cant just put three stiffs out there and say"look, running back by commitee, thats the wave of the future" Bullshit. Ill take deuce and leon and maybe someone else, but its gotta start with a guy who can be a feature back
I didn't say we shouldn't upgrade at RB. I think we should. As far as your bullshit comment, tell it to Tannenbaum.... that's a quote from him. I have always believed that the RB stud should be the last piece of the puzzle. After looking at the schedule, I think 8-8 is likely next year. There are still bigger holes to fill. The offensive line has to be able to run block.... then worry about an RB. This year the RB's were getting hit at the LOS just about every time they ran between the tackles, and that was often a D lineman, not even an LB filling a hole.
if you read my post again youll see that what I said was thinking yo can just put any 3 guys out there and call it RBBC is bullshit...I didnt say RBBC was bullshit.......and as a sidenote;just because Tanny says so, doesnt make it right. I havent seen him build a superbowl team yet
