There's a lot of truth in here. However, I would just remind you that even at this point, I don't expect Zach to be a Top 10 QB and elevate those around him. As you've said that's being unrealistic based on what we've seen for the past few years. That might have been where I hoped he would be at this point in his career when he was first drafted, but I no longer have those expectations for him. As I said in the post you replied to, I just don't expect him to be a liability anymore which shouldn't be that big of an ask for a former 2nd overall pick in his 3rd year, regardless of what he's been through in his first 2 years. The bottom line is, he's got to step up and be better this year. I do agree that he is learning and I've seen some marginal improvements over the last 2 games compared to his first 2 years so the hope is that he continues to develop on the fly and prove almost everyone wrong. We just differ now in that I'm not expecting that to happen. All that being said, he's got my support as long as he's a member of the NY Jets and I hope you're right about your final statement. We'll see soon enough.
There were so many questions about every QB other than Trevor Lawrence that you HAD TO BE RIGHT or you traded the picks to SanFran who were dying to draft Zach. I'm not selling my condo, but if someone offers me 50% over FMV, I am packing tonight. The only other choice would have been Justin Fields -- who this board (and me) thought would be the pick after he outplayed Lawrence in the CFP and then played well hurt vs. 'Bama. He'd be OK at this point, probably overdrafted, but probably as good or better than Mark Sanchez. In retrospect, that OL and offense we had for Sanchez covered a ton of warts. I can easily see Zach doing more than Mark.....IF.....he had the OL that he had.
Here's the All-22 look at one of Breece's drops. I believe this was the first play of the 2nd half. When I first watched this play, I thought it was another slip-screen but now seeing the All-22, I think Zach just wisely made the decision early to hit his check down in Breece. I don't see any OL leaking up field which typically is a dead giveaway that it's a screen of some sort. Great example here of Zach's development within the pocket IMO. Becton and AVT let the 4I-tech (#99) split them after Parsons stunts to the inside and the nose tech (#95) also works to the left of McGovern and muddies up that side of the line. Zach sees this, takes a slight step back while keeping his eyes downfield, and then steps up, adjusts his arm angle, and hits Breece. IMO, it looks like Breece starts to look up field before he's completed the catch and just alligator arms this potential catch. He also might've heard footsteps as #33 was closing in quickly. Zach maybe could've made a slightly better throw right into Breece's breadbasket, but this is one that Breece HAS to pull in.
That’s why you have to throw the game out. This game was poor execution from coaching, gameplan, offense and defense. Post rodgers injury morale on a short week on the road against a top 5 team in the league. You don’t win those, but we were competitive for a half. The offense has to move the ball more early on.
Excellent counter point. Am I wrong or Sauce has not been his usual dominant self, he got duked by receivers a few times this season already, unusual for him. Most critical. The middle of the field has been a feeding frenzy for opposing RBs, TEs and Slot receivers. We seem incapable to stop third down and get off the field with the defensive schemes we are using this year. BTW, may be I missed it but I didn’t see much out of Lawson on his return either. Might be wrong but Saleh needs to engage more on both sides and lighten a fire under this team.
Eh Sauce has been fine. Diggs did a lot of his work in the slot and against Reed. Same thing with Lamb. People who say he made some sort of horrible play by not picking that ball off are a bit irrational. Yes, he made a great read and break on it. He was stumbling and not taking the ball to the house even if he catches it.
I agree with you there! We don't need great or even good QB play. Just avg will work for us. With that said I don't think Zach can do even that. Looks like we have no choice but to find out!
Just don’t judge him by next week bellichek don’t count. We already know what’s going to happen history always repeats itself
Yeah I think sauce is believing his own hype a bit too much. Bills didn't shy away from him and had some success. Cowboys put Lamb in the slot so maybe that was shying away but I mean I can't imagine why any team wouldn't abuse us in the slot considering we can't adjust at all
Basically, Sauce and Reed cover the hash to the sidelines, if there's 2 WRS in their zone they go with the deeper one. The middle of the field is schemed in various ways depending on the play call. He was like two steps away. It was a gift that was dropped.
I don't think Sauce made a horrible play, but it was a game changing play that he didn't execute. It wasn't quite in the category of the RTP call against the Pats that completely changed that game's momentum, but it in that vein. The other point is that Sauce isn't dominating like he did last year. Sophomore slump? Reading his own press clippings? Teams are figuring out how to neutralize him? The Jets aren't using him to his best abilities? Whatever it is, he's not the DROY out there.
The bolded is true only if one places the success of Zach Wilson above the success of the New York Jets.
Congratulations - this is the first time I have seen you make such a statement (as the bolded), and this has absolutely nothing to do with an "incompetent" OC or one you think was an "inexperienced idiot," the offensive line, receivers running bad routes or dropping balls or any such promises management may have made to his family - it is an inherent part of being an NFL quarterback.
Here's a graph that shows Zach's modest improvement when it comes to accuracy this year. As the linked tweet says, this graph shows how often QBs throw to open windows (X-axis) and then how accurate those QBs are on those throws (Y-axis). Feels like the film backs this up too. I'm not seeing a ton of wildly inaccurate throws from Zach like I have seen in the previous 2 years. Progress.
modest improvement with accuracy? 54 percent is the norm for a average nfl qb right and a 2 to 1 td to interception? How many QBs had staying power with that type of accuracy? And if your absolute dodoo shit and you make a 2 percent improvement your still absolute dodoo shit
Did you even look at and then interpret the data on the graph? My money is on no. If you're gonna troll, at least try to be funny.
I don't give a crap about your graph or analysis, anyone who is not blind and has eyesight or can interpet stats can see Zach is a stinkbox, your analysis don't mean shit thats why your not employed by a Nfl team and doing them on your couch. Anyone with common sense can interpet that if a qb has put up 54% completions rates thru 3 years with more interceptions than touchdowns stinks. That is enough sample size ok, 25 freakin games now.
