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It's a lot easier for quarterbacks to put up good numbers today than it was when Namath played, and he was elite for his time.

 

Research and reading is only as good as the source - you need some new ones. Namath's guarantee is nothing more than a footnote to history. The history that put him in the Hall of Fame is about the battle between the NFL and the AFL bidding for Namath and the AFL winning. It's about how football was played at the time and how Namath was the largest force in changing it. It's about legitimizing the AFL to the point that the NFL was forced to merge the leagues. And it's about a guy who changed how the American people looked at football and the men inside the helmets.

 

You could tag me if you disagree with my point. However, the fact that you had to go back to 2 QBs (Boomer and Kelly) who started their professional careers before I was even born sort of illustrates the point I was trying to make, no?

Again, the point is you don't stop drafting QBs high just because you haven't hit on one previously.

 

I would be interested to get thoughts on this but the question I would raise is - at the NFL level - does anyone really "develop" a QB or are they pretty much who they are when they land and its just a case of getting lucky (which rules the Jets out)?

The reason I say this is that I don't think I've ever seen a QB be crap at one place then go somewhere else and be coached into becoming great - it takes rookies a bit of time to get used to the speed of the NFL game but I suspect someone like Mahomes or Burrows or Herbert would be just as good regardless of which team had taken them - there are plenty of well run teams out there that have struggled to get a good QB after their last good one retired (e.g. the colts got Manning then were lucky to get Luck but now they are struggling - if they had a secret formula to developing QBs where has it gone? the Ravens have never had a top tier QB, the Niners haven't had one since Young retired but are held out as a model franchise).

So I don't feel like its as much about developing a QB as it is getting lucky - which again is a problem for the Jets because when it comes to QBs (to quote Rodney Dangerfield) "if it wasn't for bad luck they would have no luck at all"

 

I really don't understand this "not ready" stuff as an excuse for Zach's play. Every backup I've ever heard interviewed says you have to prepare as though you're going to play. I'm sure he'd tell you the same thing if you asked him. The job of a backup is to be ready to play whenever his number is dialed.

 

Time to grow up gang. Enjoy the season! I saw every game Joe Namath played. The game was different then and much less QB friendly.

 

2010 for me

 

There are a lot of examples. It takes time to learn to play QB in the NFL. It Took Q three years to be a great D-tackle and expect QB's to be great out the gate. Usually, the QBs do well right away is the situation they went into. Brock Purdy, Mahomes, Herbert etc.

Off the top of my head

Tua- He is looking pretty good going into year 3 not so much
Alex Smith- Sucked his first couple of years
Jared Goff- He is a good QB
Drew Brees- They drafted his replacement
Kurt Warner- was cut 7 times I believe
Rich Gannon
Steve Young
Jalen Hurts- His running ability is giving him time to develop as a passer same with Lamar

Have Players like
Pennington- Did not play until year 3 and reports from camp were not good
Rodgers- Sat for three years
Favre- Was actually traded (He was drafted by Atlanta)

Again, this was off the top of my head I am sure there are more

 

If that's not simply a rhetorical question you watch the games for what you don't know will happen and allow yourself to be pleasantly surprised or really pissed off when it's over. You don't bet on games the team you root for is playing and when it's over you move on. There's no reason to get so emotionally involved that it becomes a chore - nobody at the Jets cares about you, so don't lose any sleep over them. Tune in next week.

 

Well, it was painfully obvious the CS had zero game planning for Zach, and as clearly told by the offensive players in interviews, Zach didn’t practice one snap with the actual offensive game plan against Buffalo. So it was on the fly play calling. How ready was that.
Not to mention the obvious, Zach is not ready to be the starter, and the plan to develop him for at least this year just went to hell.

 

Take a pass but don't try to ruin it for the rest of us.

 

I am not saying it doesn't take time to develop and that players don't improve with more experience but its more a question of are there plenty of examples (because there's always the odd outlier) where someone was terrible in one situation but was then developed by a "QB whisperer" and became really good somewhere else? This would particularly hold up if it was the same organisation/person that was involved so it showed that there was a team that actually was good at developing QBs rather than someone like the Colts that just managed to be in the right place at the right time to land the two top prospects (Manning and Luck).

You can say "the Jets can't develop a QB" and I agree as clearly they haven't but the point is neither has pretty much any other team - they've either got lucky in the draft or picked up someone that was already decent (perhaps just stuck on a bad team)

 

I hope to recall this post in a couple years--Through your incredible understanding and observations of ZW you have predicted he will be in the class of Drew Brees, Steve Young etc. This should be the ultimate test of your foresight. I will be the first to recognize you as a superior judge of talent if that day arrives.

 

WTF are you talking about? He asked for examples of QBs that were "developed" or not good out of the gates. It had nothing to do with Zach Wilson.

 

Indeed, although it seems that a few here are trying mighty hard to do so. Strongly suspect a couple are anything but Jet fans.

 

As a jet fan for the last 50 years I come to expect the unexpected. What makes this worse is that the football gods baited us into thinking things were going to work out only to pull the rug out. We had only 75 seconds of hope and then it was over