It’s going to take more than a 3rd. You’re dreaming if you think Belichick wouldn’t give up a 2nd, even if only to stick it to us
I think we can get him for 3/60. as a 31 year old WR he can't expect more then 20 a year. I think TB would take a 3rd as well. they aren't winning this year or even next year and he'll walk next year and the best comp pick he can fetch is a 5th in 2025. getting a 3rd in 2024 is way better. he can also kinda dictate where he goes based on whether he will sign a new deal or not.
tyreek is younger and better though. tyreek is a legit top 3 WR in the NFL. evans is in the 10-15 range at this point
I get your enthusiasm and if he stayed healthy, he'd get it again this year. Just not sure of the cost in terms of $, draft-picks, and multiple years.
It might take more than a 3d because the Jets will likely be picking 96th . However, I do think a 3d and change or max a second will get it done. However, JD might pull it off for the 3d. As far as Belicheat giving 2nd, I am not convinced. I am also not convinced he will sign a 30 year old guy to a 2/3 year extension, which will kick in when he is 31. This is the perfect scenario for us. This is an example of why Rodgers took a pay cut. We are a win now team. Let's see how this unfolds. Best case scenario is that Bucks won't extend and then lose a few games and Evans will demand a trade.
I think history shows that a team dealing a player that is due a new contract is rarely in a position of power. Tack on the fact that he's 30 and there's all the more reason to believe it wouldn't cost more than a 3rd.
It's actually really hard to find any instances of a 30 year old top tier WR in a contract year being traded but here's some comparables: Brandin Cooks, 29 years old, more 1k seasons than not, on the last year of a deal (essentially)... traded for a 2024 6th and 2023 5th Devante Parker, 28 years old, one year left on his deal... traded for a 2023 third rounder Davante Adams, 28 years old, facing the franchise tag, best WR in the league at the time... traded for a 2022 first and second That last one right there is why it's very reasonable to assume you can get Evans for a third.
Amari Cooper is another example, was 28, and went for the 5th. Granted that was a steal and I actually at the time was begging on this board for JD to do it, but given other examples it seems like 3d is the right price. Just stars have to get aligned for us to get it done.
The entire team needs a rebuild and they have a bunch of pieces that they could turn into picks. But they don’t have the coach for a rebuild and it doesn’t appear that the front office has the vision for a rebuild or they would’ve started selling before the 2023 draft. With the strength of the East and West, I don’t think they’re thinking they could nab a 7 seed. I could see them believing they could sneak into a 4-seed with a home playoff game at 9-8 in a weak division with a roster that still has good players at all three levels of the defense and good receivers with a rebuilt offensive line. Baker is also very streaky. He can get hot at any time and rattle off a 22/24 for 250 and 2TD’s. Not saying I think he’s anything great but he does have that going for him.
Im not doubting that they think that’s possible, I’m saying they are dumb if they are operating that way because what exactly is the best case scenario should they get the four seed? You still have to pay Evans, if Baker balls out you now have to pay Baker, and then what? A lot of best case scenarios that lead to a very meh outlook.
If the jets do this trade, they would have to wait on the extension. Let him hit the market next year and see if he can beat our best offer. In the meantime, the jets would be the leading favorites for Super Bowl.
Evans may not have all that many years left at 30 years old, but I do believe he’s got 2-3 of very good receiver play left, and at this point, it just seems to match up to our Rodgers window very well. It makes a lot of sense, and I agree that with his age and impending free agency, the cost in draft picks may not be as high as you would expect for a player of his caliber. I would do it at a cost of a 3rd and a future 2025 pick…we have a short 2-3 window with Rodgers most likely so need to go for it. We still have a bunch of mostly young talent and in any case, we need to maximize our shot with Rodgers…I’d HAPPILY go through what the Rams are going through…I’m willing to tolerate a year or two down after winning a Super Bowl
Also, we are one GW injury away from having a pretty poor WR group…Lazard is a #2/#3 type, Cobb is an old #3 type, Hardman is a gadget/#4 type, then we have a trio of unproven undrafted type guys in Brownlee, Gipson, and Charles. Can one of them surprise and develop into a viable starter? Maybe. But without GW we are a very mediocre group…had Corey Davis not retired, I may be looking at this differently, but with what we have now, we do need to improve this group
No Chance. The trade will have to get done together with the extension. That's the only way he comes here - or anywhere for that matter.
I would think any trade would involve a new contract…but outside of that sure, a one year rental would be cheap
2-3 years seems ambitious although receivers are learning to be extend their careers. Evans always historically plays throughout his career because he’s a big tough guy, but the dude is always hurt with nagging injuries. I would trade for him if we can. We’re all in for two years. We just had three drafts in a row with a mountain of picks. Not to say we should piss it away but we have a bit of padding because we have a stockpile of core young talent under contract.