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  1. Br4d

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    Any business that deals in the business of death in any form is morally corrupt. Profiting from the death of others is one of the prime mortal sins.

    You can make small side cases here and there like the administered suicide of a person otherwise destined to die a very painful death but those side cases are few and far between.
     
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    No, not any business. Morticians are okay. They help grieving families and take care of the logistics that the brereaved would not want to deal with. They make a profit but this is America, a captialist country, and they deserve it
     
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    Morticians deal with the aftermath of death. They don't cause it.
     
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    Kohbergers arraignment was today. He stood silent , and the judge said the plea. Trial set for Oct 2.
     
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    The DA really wanted to avoid the evidentiary hearing. They're probably going to convict him, however if they don't the question of whether it was ok to jail him for 5 months by promising an evidentiary hearing and then reneging on that will probably come up.
     
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    Wonder if it ever makes it to trial. They have a few weeks to present the death penalty, … and force a guilty plea
     
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    Actually, the handing up of the indictment eliminated the need for the evidentiary hearing. Such a hearing is required only if an indictment is not returned within a certain time period.

    What's noteworthy is Kohberger's refusal to enter a plea. That's flat-out weird.
     
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    The case has a huge amount of notoriety at this point. The defendant has already been tried in the court of public opinion.

    By standing silent Kohberger avoids the outrage that might occur if he plead not guilty. Given the social media activity that surrounds the case he was probably wise not to speak at his arraignment.
     
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    That's one possibility, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. A not-guilty plea means only that the defendant has chosen to require the State to prove its case at trial. It's not a claim of innocence, and it's not binding in any way. A defendant entering a not-guilty plea at arraignment is about as routine and perfunctory as it gets.

    Here's what I'm driving at: My sense is that this defendant thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. I wonder if he has dreamed up some weird and bizarre strategy and that his refusal to enter a not-guilty plea is somehow part of this weird and bizarre strategy.
     
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    It is probably what you suggest. Maybe though he's close to accepting a plea deal and wasn't sure what to say, I hope it is that
     
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    It's more likely to be his lawyers who came up with the idea of standing silent. They're also the ones who asked for the injunction against public commentary by people involved with the case.

    My guess is that they see a steamroller coming at their client and they're trying to slow it's momentum by any means possible.
     
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    I think that's pretty unlikely
     
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    He has most likely seen the evidence against him at this point?(discovery)
     
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    Every time Kohberger has popped his head up in this case there has been a wave of social media vitriol directed at him. His attorney has to be thinking hard about how to protect him from that added weight at this point particularly if she thinks he is not guilty.

    This case is going to be one of the cases people look at when they are trying to figure out how to deconflict social media in high profile cases. There are lots of things that are different now than when the constitutional protections for defendants were established over the last couple of centuries. It's not the same ball game and if we're going to preserve protections for defendants in criminal proceedings we're going to have to figure out how to substantially null out social media before the trial.
     
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    There was a special on dateline last Friday “killings on king road”. They made 2 new claims . He bought the knife and stealth on Amazon, and that his sister suspected him as the killer. I’m not sure where they could get info like that… I hope it’s solid, because it seems like even official outlets are willing to fling shit around these days.
     
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    According to another source one of his sisters played a major role in a B movie that basically paralleled the killings about a decade ago.

    The stuff that is going to be thrown around now will reach the heights of absurdity before we're done. Everybody is trying to cash in on the story before it goes away.

    The Amazon story should be easy to prove or disprove.
     
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    It was also said that the sisters (not sure if one, or both ), lost their jobs.
     
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    Weird that the house was labeled this way back in December on the iPhone maps. It was changed quickly.
     
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    It's just really hard to believe that Kohberger both dropped a sheath at the scene and then took one or more ID's from the victims and stored them in the glove compartment of his car, where they were found in December in Pennsylvania after he was arrested.

    The detectives staking him out in Pennsylvania said he went to the car with rubber gloves and cleaned it. He did that with clear evidence sitting in the glove compartment? Really?

    He may be guilty but it really looks like he's being set up to take the fall for the killings in that drug house.
     
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