Aaron Rogers is a Prima Donna and happens to get along with Hackett ...he also had conflict with "real "play caller LaFleur I say just give the man what he wants Gun to my head I would let Arron Rogers call his own damn plays ..you don't think he can do that Gregg?[/QUOTE] If what they are saying about Aaron Rogers's cap hit, GB will probably not trade him until June 1. This means a month and 1/2 or more of this crap for the Jets nation to endure. If he ends up being a bust, it will more hell for us Jet fans to endure. But the Jets have no choice. They must take the gamble as you so eloquently have stated. At least no one can argue that Jets management did not try. My Pats have been fortunate and I will probably be shifting my allegiance more toward the Jets this season. I will actually be rooting for the Jets to beat my Patriots, that is I think I will. Can't guarantee it till the game happens. Time is no friend for Broadway Joe, and he deserves to see a Jet SB victory before he departs this earth. Otherwise, if they can at least make it to the AFC Championship game, that might be more of a reasonable expectation. In the meantime, be prepared to be taking a lot of Advil trying to root for AR. He is a head case and hopefully not another Kyrie Irving for New York.
I think it's more surprising to believe Trey Lance has any upside what so ever after never playing then getting hurt in two games. Then think he will develop into something better then a mediocre Rodgers with virtually nothing professionally to go by. You are right, different bars
Well I just think it’s silly to count a guy out who has only played 2 NFL games. If the bar is mediocre as you say, I think Lance can still hit and possibly exceed that based on his skill set Whereas the list of guys who have declined at age 40 is very long
Not fully counting him out, moreso that Rodgers can do more in two years then Trey could do in five plus. But Rodgers may be one year too
Did not think we’d ever get to the point of trying to justify trading for Trey Lance, let alone before the draft.
I'm not a fan of this year's QB's but I would take at least 4 of them over Lance and Richardson is not in the group I would take.
Who are these 4 QB's worthy of first round pick? And how would you rank them? I am yet to see you fail on your rookie QB assessments. Let me tag @legler82 to see if he is also around.
Mid to late 1st round - Will Levis Early 2nd round - C.J. Stroud 3rd round - Herndon Hooker, Bryce Young I'd have Hooker up in the early 2nd round except for the torn ACL. He reminds me of Chad with a better arm.
I miss on QB's as much as anybody else but not when I don't like the group. If I don't like the group I tend to be pretty on-target.
Rodgers would be worth next year's first IF - and only if - he leads the Jets to the SB. Short of that, no way a first should be considered. But it seems like the 'die is cast' already. Hiring Hackett, signing Lazard, wooing Rodgers with personal visits and trying to sign OBJ, all point to a definite decision to trade for him come hell or high water. If JD ultimately surrenders a first, I pray that Rodgers either leads them to the SB, and/or contributes in other ways to pushing the Jets towards becoming a winning franchise, i.e. instilling the mentality of how to play like a winner; teaching Zach by example what it takes to be a top QB; etc.
Hard to not think that this is coming from someone that also thought Mims had potential despite not getting reps when the opportunity was there. It was always someone else's fault. Not to say I don't respect the opinion.
I like some of the draft prospects too. Something to be said for taking one, saving $100 mill the next two years and investing it elsewhere
well that’s disappointing. Yesterday you weren’t merely saying Rodgers is better than Lance, you used the words “Super Bowl” and I respected that measuring stick Obviously Rodgers is better than Trey Lance. Fuck he better be. If the rumors are true- a 2nd, 1st and $100 mill, he better be way better than a Trey Lance
One of the ways towards pushing for a better future is to load up on the o-line and take a QB on day two to develop. That probably requires trading the #13 down if the opportunity presents. The QB we take on day two is really developmental. We are looking to start him in 2024 and probably not have him hit the field in 2023 until the last few games of the season if they are not consequential. If he turns out to be the guy that's great and if he doesn't he's on the depth chart as a backup until at least 2026. The reason we are taking multiple OL early on is that we need the OL to be fundamentally sound by 2024 when the QB we take is likely to start for the Jets. The people we take need to start this year and they need to have chemistry with AVT/Mitchell/Becton (if he's around) by 2024. If we wind up with one of the older OL starting this year the plan has to be to replace them with a 2024 pick. It's very possible that even if Becton starts that we will be ready to move on from him by 2024 and in that case the replacement would be a 2024 pick. 2023 is a push year because we have a 5th year GM and a 3rd year HC/Staff that are on the clock. However the talent really isn't there yet to be anything but a one year wonder. Too many injuries in 2022 and unknowns in 2023. It's a great year to build towards a strong team but a bad year to actually try to compete at that level. An Aaron Rodgers trade that gives up a lot of value will hurt us in terms of building a strong franchise even as it maybe boosts our chances a bit for 2023.
Maybe it's all the sun but I have no idea what the point of this post is in relation to our discussion of upside.
