Good stuff, I just hope we can make it through relatively injury free. We need to keep pushing our players, its the only way for them to reach there potential.
He probably also wanted to motivate the players to make sure they are ready for camp next year and dont come in out of shape.
The grueling training camp and practices will fuel a mutiny if this team isn't winning next year. With a tougher schedule, it should be interesting to see the players reaction if we start off 0-2 or 1-3...something of that nature. Tough practices without results will make Mangini lose this team in the blink of an eye.
Groh was a hugely under-rated head coach. He took over Bill Parcells menagerie with a depleted talent base including two high profile rookies (Abraham and Ellis) playing key roles and a still-recovering QB running the offense and improved the record by a game. And under his watch the Jets won at least 3 games they should not have including 2 (Tampa in Tampa and Miami) that were outright miracles. The disgrace is that Parcells forced him out at the end of the season.
That's my take on it as well. He doesn't want these guys to rest on their laurels, he understands that each year is unique and they must be ready to bust their butts again next year to achieve any type of success they expect...
EM has already said that to get better we have to work harder if we are going to improve from this season. He also said that what happen is 06 is to be forgotten since we have to start all over again in 07 as a record is 0-0 starting off. Read todays papers for reference to Man remarks from yesterday
I think Mangini has an idea now which players will be "his guys" and which won't. A number of guys could be be gone soon. I think one or two that might even be surprises. I know very few guys are free agents, but I'm expecting a little more turnover than what's being predicted.
if you're going to push your players, you better win if you're losing, you're not going to last very long i'm surprised he has such a hard nosed approach, because once things start going wrong, it'll be a slippery sloap.
Can you imagine if Mangini walked into camp next July on the first day, took to the podium, shed his black windbreakers and was a ripped 225 lbs. Six pack, and everything? Anyone who had a problem with hard work would be talking to the wrong guy. Not like players have much choice or should need much incentive to work hard, but that would give any remaining complainers little ground on which to stand.
I disagree. A team can quit on a coach whether he pushes or not. And if your team loses and then quits on you, you didn't have the right personnel to begin with anyway. And as far as having a hard-nosed approach and being on a slippery slope if things "go wrong," those same things could "go wrong" if you are easy on them too. Bottom line, Mangini has nothing to fear and nothing to lose by being a demanding coach at this point. He's already proven what he brings to the table and most of the players (pretty much to a man) have already bought into the program and seen the results. They won't question a slightly more difficult program next year. And if one or two of them do, then they're probably not the kind of team player we need around here anyway. So, like I say, he has nothing to lose by being "hard-nosed."
nice. I said I thought he would be just as tough in the CLASSLESS COLES thread......I told you so haha
I'm glad he plans on being tougher. If the players (like Coles and Vilma) are saying they aren't looking forward to next seasons practice, that is a good thing. It shows that Mangini is working them to the limit, and that is a great thing he is doing. I'm all for it, up until the point that they may get injured.
We weren't a bad team that year, and should definitely have made the playoffs. Al Groh was a good coach, but losing the last 3 games to finish 9-7 was clearly his fault.
I worried about that this past year and it never took place, mainly b/c Mangini knew to tone it down slightly when TC reached its end. Something Groh didn't do. I don't bevelieve it is something we should worry too much about.
mangini may work them harder, but he will be smarter in handlind certain types of players....he would be stupid to run them all at the same intensity....yes, hard work, but not 'stupid' hard work...im sure he will be able to ensure the vets are primed to go deeper.
totally agree. if you dont want to do the work, then fk off and miss out on your team success....there is too much 'I' in the NFL and pro sports these days....in the states as well as aust.
