For his own good, that hit me so funny. Not because my first thought was over his psyche but because my first thought was that some drunk Jets fan would threaten to kick his ass.
I'm a little confused on it, too. A long time ago in a tight now defunct small Jets community I posted this really long list of all time busts in the NFL. It was really amazing. Most of them included multiple arrests for serious offenses, it was almost surreal. I wish I had saved that.
Long before your time crapping on the Raiders was like a parlor game around here. It's JaFatcus, hello.
Sit last year, and start this year, set the team back 2 more years, to find out what the majority already knew about Wilson he sucks, the things Wilson can't do, can't be fixed by sitting, when you're drafted 2nd overall in the NFL draft, you don't sit, that's for low draft picks
What's really scary is how Baker Mayfield kicked the Broncos' asses and didn't break a sweat doing it.
Not sorry for the confusion because it’s been interesting to see some people rate Wilson in the top 3 busts of all time vs lower that that on just the Jets bust list alone. My intention was All-Time NFL bust list though, because I think he’s earned that. Right now I have him just behind Jamarcus. Wilson crushes his teams moral in a way that I’ve never seen before, he did less with more than his predecessor had available to him, and his stats are trash. As mentioned taking him instead of a potential haul of draft picks is more damning of the front office but it means that pick could have had way more value than what it ended up being. The #1 vs #2 pick game was a complete nightmare that’ll be a footnote in Lawrence’s career but may define Wilson’s. If he’s out of the league after this year I’d say that about seals him in the top 3, but I’m hoping for 2nd so I can refer to him as shit cubed.
I have always been the guy who believed drafting your FQB is the better route to go than FA or trade, but I am way more open to a guy that's done it before elsewhere than going with an untested/unproven rookie thrown into starting role day 1...
Let's cut the Jets some slack here, they've only had about a dozen years of high draft picks to solve their quarterback quandary. Rome wasn't built in a day you know. As for Glazer, welcome to the party. A little late for a so-called football "insider", but he's welcomed anyway.
This is one of those things where if Glazer is wrong, no one will remember and if he’s right, he broke the news three months before it happened. Win-win for him.
Jay usually hears something when he breaks reports like this. Probably what he heard from someone in the Jets org is that Jets lost confidence in Zach and Zach lost confidence in himself. He could not have heard anything more. I don't think JD has made a decision on next year yet - right now they are still fighting for play-offs. But, yeah right now, they are not very high on Zach, that much is obvious. Whether that means keeping him as a 3d stringer developmental QB as if he were drafted mid round a la James Morgan, or trading him will be decided in the off-season, and will depend on other factors, like whether we can trade him, what we can get back, etc... If we do end up with Tom Brady, maybe it is not the most terrible idea to learn from him for a year. Right now it's Jay's speculation based on the fact he heard Jets lost confidence in Zach.
I would keep an eye on the Rams. Stafford says he is coming back next year. Mayfield is doing well there as he is getting more comfortable with the offense. I doubt either wants to be a backup. I don't know what the contract situations are for either player but if the Jets could somehow get Stafford or Mayfield then that would be an upgrade over what they currently have.
You are not set-up until you have a great QB. We needed one, and picking the QB was the move to make. We just picked a wrong one.
None of the QBs were can’t miss prospects even Lawrence. Hoping for Mahomes is crazy stuff that’s gets a GM fired. Archie Manning is the only can’t miss coming in the next few years.
If we picked Fields, I don't think anyone would be complaining. But the thing is, Allen wasn't regarded in HS, went to small school, played mostly crap competition, actually got worse from So to Jr season, never completed above 56% at College level, but had impressive physical skillset and arm talent. Take a look at his final season: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-allen-7/gamelog/2017/ Now look at Zach's final season: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/zach-wilson-3/gamelog/2020/ . They even have a couple of common opponents, against whom Zach did a lot better. Josh faced a few decent schools, but shit the bed against them. Zach was stellar. The reason why Allen was considered a top 10 prospect was because of this physical tools, and also his sucking was attributed to bad team around him. Zach had a good team, but he also put together one of the best season statistically, including against the teams he struggled a year before and the teams Josh Allen played, but did poorly in, like Boise st. The point is, there was a lot in that Zach-Allen comparison, and if anything Zach looked a lot more favorable. Allen turned out to be top 5 NFL QB, a perennial MVP candidate. Zach so far looks like a total bust of Leaf's proportions. I don't think Allen had better opportunity in Buffalo to succeed than Zach here. Oline wasn't great in Buffalo eother, and he didn't get a good WR until 3d year - Zach had GW in the second. I just think it's a matter of luck to be honest. For whatever reason, Allen's brain and processing power responded at the next level and Zach's didn't.
This is almost always the case with QB picks. If the first two picks are QB's the guy taken #2 in that sequence busts very often even compared to 1st round QB's in general. Back to the merger: 1971 - Jim Plunkett, Archie Manning (bust with excuses), #3 was Dan Pastorini (bust) 1993 - Drew Bledsoe, Rick Mirer (bust) 1998 - Peyton Manning, Ryan Leaf (bust) 1999 - Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, #3 was Akili Smith (bust) 2012 - Andrew Luck, RGIII (injury bust) 2015 - Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota (likely bust - certainly for the team that drafted him) 2016 - Jared Goff, Carson Wentz 2020 - Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson (likely bust) The numbers are bad enough that it is almost certainly suicidal for any FO to take a QB on the #2 pick when a QB went on the #1 ahead of them. There are a small number of situations in which QB's have gone #1 and #3 and the guy on #3 has always been a bust. Sam Darnold, Joey Harrington, Mike Phipps. The story of the NFL draft and what you should do in it is very clear since the merger: take the best player available and the higher you are in the draft the more important this becomes. The modern view that if you need a QB you take a QB high in the draft is more garbage designed to keep the bad teams bad (and it works at doing that.)
