How can any true Jet fan be disappointed with last night's result? The Jets have finally cleared the final hurdle which will permit them to move on from Zach and, hopefully, continue forward with the team's improvement. For some time, it looked like this day would never arrive and all would remain in suspended animation due to the coaching staff's inability to pull the plug on a comatose patient who had no chance of recovering. Every team experience some bumps in the road when going through a rebuild. How you respond to those bumps is what truly matters. We can sit here and bitch and cry ad nauseam playing Monday morning QB about the Jets should have drafted this guy or that guy, which is basically a complete waste of valuable time. Or, we can move on and shovel some new freshly dumped shit, as this team once again goes back to the drawing board and tries to get its shit together. Wasting time doing the latter sounds like a lot more fun than the former. With regards to the NFL becoming more athletic theatre and less of an athletic competition, this is as hardly a surprise for a long established established entertainment monopoly such as the NFL. This designation allows the league to script the entertainment in any way they see fit without legal liability. Simply put, monopolies do not do competition. Monopolies are permitted to overcharge because they have no competition for the consumer's dollar. It seems they also think this permits them to shove a bunch of jingoistic and virtue signaling nonsense down people's throats. Most of the old guard will agree the NFL has changed for the worse, fully embracing the WWE concept and the carnival atmosphere associated with it. Imagine the look on the face of a Chuck Noll or Tom Landry if one of their players had shown up to a game dressed in a pink bunny suit. Well, you can kiss those good ole days goodbye, as the league has pivoted towards marketing the product to a younger demographic, many of whom have been mentally molded by a controlled legacy media. Since such institutions do not operate in a vacuum, they infect and are infected with the best and worst humanity has to offer. Unfortunately, only the worst seems to gravitate towards one particular team.
Yep. Sometimes they don't give you a choice. That's life. Disappointing, but literally nothing we can do about it.
Right now totally depressed Knight...and yes more disgusted at the the inability to get off the NYJs 55 year addiction !!! We all need help! haha And then Saleh goes off and says "we won't give up on ZW" the next day ...wow I hope thats the biggest boldfaced lie in Jets history smh because it just added a nail in the Fans coffin ..right? Herm Edwards said on ESPN a few minutes ago the decision to move on from ZW or get a good Vet to rescue the Team will be made in offseason between HC GM and Woody (OMG)
I’ve learned over the years to set boundaries between myself and the Jets. I will always support and root for them as well as attend a few games each year but in the process I’ve learned to never get my hopes up because I will most certainly be disappointed if I do. Hope for the best, expect the worst. Having a fulfilling life apart from being a fan of the team greatly assists with this. Remember what’s important, family, friendships, health, hobbies, etc.
Well said DK. I allowed myself to get sucked back in thinking "Finally! They've got a good young QB and a good young CS with a plan that seems solid!". Now my illusions are shattered. I won't root for anyone else besides the Jets, but I'll just distance myself from football until, and IF, the Jets ever figure it out before I die. If not, there's life to live and better thangs to do with what's left of it.
To be fair he was a little more canny - he said "while he was in a Jets jersey they won't give up on ZW" - so basically they can trade or cut him tomorrow and he is then "no longer in a Jets jersey"
That’s exactly how to look at it nowadays. The NFL is all business now $$$ and they treat their fans like absolute crap. It started with Taglibue (spell?) and now Goodell. It’s become more political and some of the players - not all - are absolute thugs. Take that Buffalo game the other night. The stadium workers worked all day to make sure the field was cleared for kickoff - where did they dump all the snow?? Why in the seats of course!! Let the fans paying all the money worry about it and move it off the cold, plastic seats themselves. It just shows you what the leagues true mentality is and what they know they can get away with. In regards to the Jets the real problem is Woody treats the team like a toy it’s a hobby to him. In reality he is a businessman and he even dabbed in politics. So while I can see he cares about the Jets to a point - the franchise is not his #1 priority. He brokered the stadium deal with the Giants - his crosstown rival - why? Least cost to his pocket. So back to the original premise treat football like entertainment because that’s what it is. We as the fans really have no control over what players they scout, select, what college they came from, etc. Enjoy what you can get out of it. I enjoyed the beginning of the year and watching some of these young players. My gut told me this was not going to be a playoff year after the Vikings game - it just wasn’t in the cards. Then White was injured and it took the air out of the players. We know Zach is not the answer - not for NY anyway - he may or may not be able to straighten himself out but he does not have the personality or the grit to handle NY. Next year the Jets need to find a competent QB - via the FA route - and fix the OL once and for all. They are better than last year but need more work. JD is a good GM - better than what the Jets have had in quite a while. He got Zach wrong but he has found some good talent otherwise. Let him go to work this offseason and add the missing pieces. Just don’t get too crazy and take it too serious. We as fans do not get paid for the aggravation…..
OMG..just checked the scheduled : College Championships aside the first NFL team we all will be focused first day 2023 are the NYJets>>ugh aggravation right from day one
Yep. I will never cheer for any other NFL team. The Jets are my team. I just think I waste too much time on them for the results I get. Since I feel this way now, they will probably trade for or sign a good QB, just to get me excited and bring me back in. Time will tell. Definitely the failed development of Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson has been disappointing to me. It feels like a waste of 5 seasons. Hey, I get to enjoy the rest of 2022 with no Jets worries at least. Great post, @mrjet80! I agree with all of that. Amen, @roboz08! That truly is what is important in life.
But how do we know for sure this team cleared the hurdle with clarity at QB? I honestly wouldn’t put it past Saleh to start Zach next 2 games and then give him a chance to stink it up again next year but with competition in camp. Literally nothing would surprise me anymore with this franchise. They are inept as you’ll ever see.
That is part of my issue too. How can I trust the Jets will make the right decisions when they haven't for so many years? Now they've gone from (7-4) to out of the playoffs in a month. Hard to believe they are truly on the right path. It's nice that they are not the worst team in the NFL anymore, but I find it tough to believe they can compete with the best of the best in 2023 and beyond. All I have wanted as a fan is to see the Jets win Super Bowl, and I am not sure if this staff will be able to do that.
So.. football aside. In terms of what the team Is or Isn't doing. We don't control that. We can all relate to you In some capacity though I think. More so than others... Here Is what I can say from my experience. I used to let this team eat away at my soul. There was a point when I would get so upset I would be on the verge of tears, screaming at the TV, pacing the floors, holding onto It hours and hours after the game was over. Sometimes days... It took a toll on my mental health If I'm honest. I'm not one of those dudes that cares If others know about my darker side, It's just part of my experience. I eventually realized just how unhealthy It was and I found a way to cope by meeting the shitty product on a yearly basis on the field, by not allowing that shitty product to dictate anything beyond those 4 hours of football. Sometimes a little longer, but not much longer. I will invest enough to watch (sometimes I don't even watch It all If It's that bad) the game, root for my team, hope for the best, and be disappointed If they lose. Then If I can't shake It, I write It down. Most of the times I do that on here actually. It was expectations for me. I stopped expecting this team to give a shit about us, the fan. We all know we deserve better as fans but we don't control that narrative. So, I learned and realized that If I would just allow things to unfold naturally, without expectation, and be over joyed when It's worth being joyful, and annoyed for the amount of time I allotted myself to be annoyed. Accept what Is out of your control.. It was a good balance for me. Set boundaries as silly as that might sound to some. ...and If I'm honest. I actually use this forum, debating with all of you, to get out any excess BS In my system that might still linger but I do that with respect for all of you. I try to anyway because I know this hurts ALL of us. Differently but It still fucking hurts to some capacity. None of us want to see our team consistently miss the playoffs, none of us like the last decade + of football we've seen out of this team. Aside from this season. So, use the outlets you have to be your therapy for what you clearly feel as unhealthy for you right now, don't let It weigh you down, give yourself time to be annoyed and hurt but know when to let It go too. Rid yourself of expectations. Call the bullshit, bullshit. Enjoy the amazing moments that we do have from time to time. Use your fellow miserable NYJ brethren to get some of your frustrations off your chest so you can let go of It. Writing things down helps, It gives your brain permission to let go a lot easier of that frustration, so this forum has been an amazing tool for me over the years. Now. I still give a fuck, I still get upset, but I balance It out and It's healthy for me now. I know when I can be upset and when to turn that shit off through venting on here, then moving on. You got this. You are a valuable poster and an awesome NYJ fan. You are another poster I value a lot on here, know that. Hope something within my post helped. Merry Xmas, TDK!
It helped a lot. Thank you, @IIMeanDeanII! I think that is the best way to handle the Jets for sure. I never thought about it that way, but TGG really is therapeutic for many of us fans. Honestly, even making this thread made me feel better after the brutal loss to Jacksonville. I definitely need to lower expectations because that is obviously the hardest part. I am naturally optimistic, so I always think the Jets can succeed. They usually give me reasons to believe, like this year too, but then they blow it. Love what you said about giving the Jets the 4 hours of football and then move on. That is what I truly need to work on and I think I had a breakthrough on that yesterday. Thanks again and Merry Christmas to you too!
Finding the QB is doable. Fixing the OL is a perplexing problem. If you sign free agents you either pay too much or you get geezers who won't last for long, sometimes both. If you draft guys you have to take considerable time and effort to integrate them into your existing OL and the Jet's OL right now blows chunks so you are integrating them only to replace other components shortly after they have been integrated. If I'm the Jets I am drafting 3 OL next season with an eye towards replacing everybody but AVT and McGovern or Mitchell. I'm avoiding free agent OL like the plague because short term gains are usually followed by long-term gaps.
LOL. No idea how I did that. Posting at work so I probably cut and pasted between two different apps I read TGG on. Now I have to go make sure I didn't send to my boss...
Finding the QB is so doable that we haven’t done it in 50 years!?! Finding a QB is not doable. It’s the only thing we should be focusing on until we find one. We turned out D around in one season. That’s doable. You can turn an OL around on one season. That’s doable. You can turn a WR room from the most incompetent least threatening bunch to a formidable one in a year. That’s doable. What is NOT doable is finding a QB with such a careless attitude that it’s easily doable to replace. If we want anything releveAnt to a possibility of winning a SB we need a QB. Nothing matters until we find one. You can have all the Sauce Gardners/Mekhi Becton/Garrett Wilson’s/Breece Hall/Jermaine Johnson’s in the world. In fact Douglas could literally have a draft as good as last years time and time again and it will not result in a winning SB team until we have a fucking QB. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
The Jets always look in the wrong places for QB's while other teams are solving their problems with relatively little effort. Who have the Jets good QB's been over the years? Joe Willie - pick #1 and consensus best QB of '65 Ken O'Brien - pick #26 (no trade up just picked the guy they liked when he fell to them) Boomer Esiason - vet FA came home to finish up Vinny Testaverde - vet FA signed a cheap deal and then got extended at FQB numbers after '98 Chad Pennington - #18 pick and 1st QB taken in 2000 draft. Parcells wanted to leave the Jets with a successor to Vinny Basically that's the list. The only guys who came in the door with a guaranteed straight shot at the field were the #1 overall pick in '65 and the hometown hero who had a few Pro Bowls on his resume (and made another with the Jets.). Everybody else earned their way onto the field when the guy before them was done.
