I disagree. Based on his talent, speed, and production last year when healthy, some team will give up at least a 3rd or 2nd for him, particularly if they've lost a WR. They know that MLF has been misusing him. If he is used in the proper way, he is still very dangerous and valuable.
Just spit ballin here but I'd be open to trading Moore for Desmond Ridder straight up. IMO Ridder has the potential to be the next Joe Burrow.
We’ll it’s interesting…we have some depth. I’d rather keep him than trade him, but Davis has rapport with Zach and as much as I think he drops too many for a supposed number one receiver, I want Davis on the team…he’s the only receiver who has deep ball chemistry with Zach. GW also drops too many but he has star potential, and Berrios is a very good #3/#4 type guy…not a long ball guy but he can do damage from the slot and on sweeps and gadget plays. If you count the TEs and RBs we have plenty of targets. I still think we’re better with Moore than without him, but if there is a valid offer, I wouldn’t be shocked to see JD move him as we have talented targets….crazy how we can say that after the last few years of crap
You would knowingly create a potential for a QB controversy? You and I both know this CS is conflict adverse. As long as Zach is here, barring injury there is only 1 QB on the roster. /edit
I assume you meant "QB" controversy, not "CB". And I agree with you. Until Zach proves to the CS that he isn't the guy, they've not going to do anything to interfere with his progression. If they trade Moore - and I hope they do - there are much more important pieces to fill than backup QB, especially one who might ignite a QB controversy.
It is a poor way to run a team. Injuries happen and we need to make sure the next man up is available. As they stayed with Flacco the front office clearly does not believe that Mike White is the answer. Time to get a QB.
Speed? Dude is slow as balls with pads on. He’s not a WR. A WR can man up against a CB and win the battle. Moore on the outside gets zero separation and is overmatched by the opponent’s #2 CB’s. Moore’s best role in an offense would be the role that Berrios plays, creating mismatches against LB’s and Safeties. I think a lot of Jets fans had visions of Moore being comparable to Tyreek Hill, and he’s just not even close to that. Hill has turbo speed, Moore has quickness and shiftiness, but he’s slow on the outside and he’s not getting open.
If competition makes Zach struggle, especially in his second season, then I wouldn't expect him to take us very far. He's had way more coddling and been given way more help than any QB in his class, maybe even the league. Yet he's still the same QB. If QB is such an important position why wait until there's a fire? Maybe another 1st round trade up. I'm not saying Atlanta would realistically give Ridder up cause they took him to be their future. But with Mariota playing so well and them getting Ridder so cheap? Ridder is a more talented QB than Zach, and getting him for Moore would be a major coop. Heck, I'd offer Moore and Mike White if we had to.
The logical thing to do is to acquire a vet QB in the offseason and give ZW some real competition for the job. Let things flow from there and draft a QB in '24 if necessary. The caliber of vet QB likely to be available is at the Mayfield/Goff/Bridgewater/Wentz/Winston level. You look at those names and wince but they're the same thing as Testaverde at the time the Jets acquired him to push Glenn Foley - out of a job as it turned out.
It's not so much Zach "struggling", it's more about the distraction. Unless they're convinced that Zach isn't the future FQB - and there is zero evidence that they don't think he his - they're not going to introduce that distraction.
You're basing this on the belief that JD and Saleh don't think Zach is the future FQB, but there is no evidence for this belief. I could see them adding a better vet than Flacco or White, but not one who would possibly create a QB controversy.
It’s only ever a distraction if the QB on the field is playing like garbage. If your starting QB is great the backup can do cartwheels up and down the sideline the entire game and no one would care. Backups become distractions when the starter isn’t pulling his weight.
A QB controversy at this point seems painfully premature. May be by year end this discussion might even go away forever more.
I don't think they're gonna pull the plug on JD's prize DP anytime soon. I think they do walk on egg shells around Zach though.
No but he’s not playing great either. You can’t have both sides. You said you don’t want a backup because of a distraction. You’re right, it’s a distraction…. When the starter isn’t playing well.
Zach is managing the game in front of him as dictated by LeFleur. We're not seeing near as much hero ball as we did last year.
