studs corners-sauce, reed and carter were outstanding. reed int and a forced fumble, sauce was tested twice, one pass defensed,one catch for 8 yards Lam
lol sure burrows 4 INTs and their kicker whiffing didn't cost them the game. you clearly never seen mark sanchez in his prime costing us games singlehandedly.
Lamarcus Joyner was terrible. That was definitely pass interference & then on the TD, he took the outside route instead of the deep middle (Bart Scott pointed this out SNY Post Game show). I said that I felt it was strange that I didn't hear this guy's name in TC back in August. Garbage. I wasnt impressed with Laken Tomlinson at all ---- especially in pass protection ---- he seemed to get jacked up & pushed backwards on every pass play.
yeah laken had a tough start but fant was getting blown up so much I think he was oversshadowed. mitchell had a rough game as a rookie too. nobody on the o-line looked great. mcgovern was probably the most solid looking but it takes time to gel too. we have talent there. I do think heading into the offseason biggest needs will be OT and S and LBer.
LaFleur was a dud. Should have been more running and passes to tight ends as well as short crossing roots to receivers.
here’s my thing. Fant was at his best position no? And LT was at his pro bowl spot. Thing with that is, Fant barely worked with LT next to him in camp. So you gotta give them time to gel on that left side. IIRC, the pressure seemed to come moreso from the left side then the right. I think Max was okay.
Saleh said they came out in the 2 TE personnel but once they got down, they went to 3-4 WR looks. That's why Uzomah's usage (had like 23 plays) was so minimal. Once the Jets go to 3 wide, Conklin is the guy the Jets had out there with those type looks. Once you do that though, you risk not playing Wilson/Berrios as much in the slot since you're swapping out the TE for the WR.
Sorry for a little venting. The guy did a fair and honest assessment of personnel based on actual performance by key individuals and some here want to turn it into a qualitative superficial assessment where the number of duds versus studs should be based on the final score. Does it ever dawn on people that a couple of bad plays by few players blows the game away. Damned be the logic. If there is a reversal and the Jets would have won, they would have used a different logic to justify why it still wasn’t good enough based on the few number of studs. I suppose under duds we should also add Jet fans that start screaming for A QB change after half time, in the middle of a game. Really sending a message of anger, But when Saleh mentions anger by the fans, some think is an insult. Confused. I am.
If we had an above avg oline, or even an avg oline (and we SHOULD have an above avg oline with all the draft picks and FA $s that have gone into it) we would probably have won this game. If Flacco wasn't under constant duress and if our run blocking produced more than -1yrd on 1st down, our offense would have been as good as our defense. Somehow, someway, JoeD and Saleh have to fix our oline, and fix it FAST, like in fix it before Zack comes back.
Exactly. It takes an IQ of precisely 0 to point to the score as the answer to every question. The score tells you that there is a problem, but it says nothing about the nature or extent of the problem. Here's what I saw from the film: 1) Outside of a few players, there was a lot of quality play. 2) The younger guys are showing incredible promise. Wilson, Sauce, Breece Hall, Michael Carter, Jermaine Johnson, Elijah Moore -- damn, there were a lot of great flashes from that group. Imagine what these guys will do with a couple more years under their belt. The team sucks right now because we weren't getting these kinds of players in the draft in the years leading up to 2021, and it's not realistic to think that you can win a lot of games in the NFL by looking to first and second year players as your stars. 3) The run defense looked very good. We have seen a lot of posters claim that Sauce wasn't the right pick because all he can do is lock up one receiver, which only does so much. Sunday's run defense showed just how false that theory is. A great corner allows your LBs and safeties to focus more on the run and not worry as much about helping mediocre DBs in pass coverage. Our average-at-best LBs looked quite good against the run when they could keep their focus on the run. 4) On the TD that Bryce Hall gave up: The announcers kept talking about how great Hall's coverage was, and I've seen that theory posted a couple times here too -- "it was just a great catch by the WR." But compare Hall's coverage on that play to Sauce's coverage against the TD pass attempt: Sauce not only had the guy covered, he was within inches of the guy's chest, and Sauce got his arm up so that there's no way the ball could be caught. THAT is great coverage. Bryce Hall was in the right place, but really didn't do anything to prevent the ball from being caught. Sauce made it virtually impossible for the WR to make a catch. That's the difference between solid DB play and a great DB play. 5) Joyner was terrible on the TD play. I'm seeing some debate about whether it was a communication issue, etc., but I think that's bunko -- regardless of whether Sauce should have passed off later than he did, it was a 55 YARD TD. Somewhere in that 55 yards, Joyner became responsible for the WR. We can debate whether the pass off should have happened after 10 yards, 20 yards, or 25 yards, but the point at which Joyner became responsible was LESS THAN FIFTY-FIVE YARDS. 6) There were just a few bad players that, with decent play, would have made this a very competitive game: (a) Joyner. He had two major whiffs that completely changed the game. He blew coverage on that 55 yard TD pass, and he also had a key PI call that led to another Baltimore TD. That's 14 points right there. Ouch. Get us some decent safety play on those two plays, and suddenly this would have been a pretty close game. (b) Flacco's cement feet. He was holding on to the ball forever on some plays, and then unable to move when the pocket collapsed. You can hold it long if you can run, or you can get rid of it quickly if you can't run, but you can't hold it long if you can't run. I don't blame him for the poor OL play or the fact that often there were no receivers open, but he's got to get rid of that ball when the pocket starts collapsing. (c) OL play was poor, but we're down 2 of our top tackles, which means we get to work around poor OL play. That means that a veteran QB needs to take responsibility for getting rid of the ball quickly enough that the OL doesn't have to hold their blocks as long as they might if we had Brown or Becton. Overall: It's not realistic to think that we can go from a 4 win season to being highly competitive against a SB-caliber team in week 1, especially when we're without our starting QB and 2 tackles. A team this young is going to have plenty of "Doh!" moments, and those will kill you against a team as polished as the Ravens. Even though we had a lot of quality play, it only takes a few mistakes to find yourself down three touchdowns. So, while I wish we were further along, I'm not terribly shocked or dismayed at the fact that we got blown out by a quality Ravens team. I am very excited by the promise we saw in many of our young players. I'm fortunate that I can enjoy watching that even if the team otherwise gets blown out. I realize not everyone can compartmentalize that way. Cheers.
I hope the run defense can hold up over the season and that this game wasn't a fluke. I hope Kwon stays healthy. That was very good coverage by Hall... it could have easily ended the same way Sauce's did... Is Hall as good as Sauce? Probably not... but wouldn't that be great? He's a 5th round pick...
Sure. Every comment here says your math sucks. No team can lose like the Jets just did and give the entire coaching staff a pass. Why do you feel a need to constantly defend the indefensible?
You're confused because you think that anything a fan does, or even all the fans, can have any affect whatsoever on the game. It's the GM's office, the coaching staff and the players who are the only ones who can do that; they're the only ones who need to own the outcome.
You've been around for more than long enough to know that the answer to this is a resounding NO. Especially for those who barely watch games and concentrate on box scores and highlights.
