The Ukrainian situation

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  1. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    George Orwell counsels that you can't believe anything you read. Of course, he never had access to twitter.
     
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    Ok... but just don't lump me in with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

    I'm with Tulsi... ;)
     
  3. Acad23

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    Positively Orwellian... ;)

    ...Zelenskiy aims to further assert his influence over the country’s media sphere. On Sunday, the Ukrainian leader signed a decree that aims to unite all national TV channels into one platform, citing the importance of a “unified information policy” under martial law.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nds-11-political-parties-with-links-to-russia
     
  4. Acad23

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    The videos I saw are of Ukrainian citizens being publicly abused and tortured.
    Maybe they are looters or Russian sympathizers... I can't tell.

    There are women and children among those getting tortured... sad.
    Mostly it's people getting bound to poles with shipping tape, pants pulled down and ass-whipped.
    Then they are left to freeze in the cold.

    Russian disinfo?... I seriously doubt it. Whatever it is... it's criminally cruel and against common decency.
    It's not that shocking considering the country is at war and that social/civil constructs are flown to the wind.
    But it gives one pause to consider exactly what the fuck is going on over there... where are the UN "blue helmets"?


    What's more disturbing... to me at least... are testimonies of abuses by Ukrainian soldiers against citizens looking to flee.
    Claims of the Azov Battalion executing civilians trying to escape the city.

    I can link to the videos but I don't think it's appropriate... especially for a football forum.
    It's likely these stories will become more widely known as time goes on.
     
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    You don't have to link to them, just say where in general you found them. Usually if these things exist, I'm one of the first to find them because I go onto the other side's media outlets and communication channels.
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    MTG is just an idiot.

    Tulsi is a spy.
     
  7. Satan

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    Or this website
     
  8. Dierking

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    :eek:
     
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    Calm down Hillary...
     
  10. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    The world is truly coming to an end when @Dierking uses an emoji.
     
  11. Acad23

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    Here's a glimpse... this is some of the least brutal of the things I've seen so far.
    Looks like most of these are for looting or dissension... there are witness accounts and video of far worse crimes.

    I'm trying very hard to reserve judgement... but these are human rights violations no matter what the context.

    Watch it and voice your opinion if you want.
     
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    Whatever's going on in those videos is horrible. If it's Ukrainians doing it, then there is more going on that what we're being told. Having said that, I'm not convinced it is Ukrainians doing it, considering the Twitter account you cited appears to be one bought recently by some pro-Russian individual or organization. It's a huge red flag when an anonymous account has existed since 2015, and this is all it Tweeted before this year. https://twitter.com/search?q=from:Youblacksoul since:2015-01-10 until:2022-01-1&src=typed_query&f=top
     
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    Exactly.

    When it was just Tulsi trying to keep Hillary from getting elected - something Putin really wanted - I wasn't so sure. That she met with Assad and supported him was pretty gross but you know...

    However her coming out as strongly pro-Russia and pro-Putin this time around tells me that there is a lot more there than meets the eye.

    Putin invested a lot in his US assets over the last 6 years. Odds are pretty good Gabbard is one of them.
     
  14. Acad23

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    If her 5 large houses are any indication...
    Oh wait... that's Joe Biden.

    Ok... what about her seaside mansion on Martha's Vineyard?
    Shit... that's Obama.

    Was it her that sat on the board of a Ukrainian energy company that was sucking Crimea dry?
    I can't remember... :confused:
     
  15. Br4d

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    This is pure misdirection that has nothing to do with anything.

    The question is not if the elite in the USA can have really nice things because there's no question that they can.

    The question is why Gabbard met twice with Assad, privately, in 2017 on her fact-finding mission to Syria? Why did she deny his use of chemical weapons against civilians, something that none of the international authorities doubted? What was that all about?

    Why does Gabbard oppose intervention and at the same time support Russia's move into Ukraine?

    Her background is not a normal background however that's not the point either.

    The question is why she pretends to be a Democrat while supporting fascist thugs around the world?

    Again, what is that all about?
     
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    Point out how she's "supporting fascist thugs around the world" and I'll give you an answer.

    Fact finding missions are weak sauce... all you've got is conjecture and hearsay.

    And the question is not if the elite "can have really nice things"... it's how they paid for them.
    Joe Biden got those nice things by selling out America... and he's not done yet.
     
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    If it's propaganda then I'll take the heat...
    But if it is disinformation it's incredibly well engineered.

    Just like Hunter's laptop... o_O
     
  18. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    I didn't track down the video(s) nor will I because I don't want to make myself sick, but you have to wonder what is really going on here. There are unconfirmed (as of now) reports circulating that these are "refugees" who are being mistreated and are being forcefully deported to Russia, and that it's not at the hands of the paramilitary neo-Nazi turds demoralizing and torturing civilians for fun no matter what uniforms they're wearing, flags they're waving, or statements they're making. That may be in reality what @Acad23 and @HomeoftheJets saw but it's cloaked as something else.

    Whatever the case, you know those "refugees" are headed straight to Siberia. Hitler 1939 here we come.

    Here's one of many links:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...lly-deported-thousands-its-people-2022-03-20/
     
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    :confused:
     
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    This is why all the people jumping on the "support the nazis" banwagon need to slow down.

    I thought the video of the Nazis gunning down civilians in the road from a few weeks ago would have at least caused people to pause.

    Oh well, repeating the same mistakes....

    Speaking of laptops
     
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