Who knows? Maybe you're right, but supposedly the Packers offer was much better than the Raiders and Adams informed the Packers as soon Rodgers said that he was coming back. I'm actually wondering if maybe Adams doesn't have a problem with Rodgers and is fed up with him. Still, Adams is from CA, evidently grew up a Raiders fan, and he and Carr may be best friends. If you have that kind of control and money, why not do what you want? Life is precious. Money isn't everything, yet he still got a boatload.
Deshaun Watson just got 46 mil a year deal with base of 1 mil for 2022. Yet - guess what signing bonus? 45 mil, so he still gets his full 46 mil this year. 46 mil a year guy can be had by a team with 10 mil in CAP space. He coutns same as McGovern or Fant. Later he can restructure again to keep kicking this can down the road for next decade. Browns didn't even have to get rid of 20 mil of Baker's salary to complete trade and still had no issue with Amari Coopers' 20 mil trade. This is total horse shit. CAP hell? More like CAP heaven. Panthers just decided to gain CAP by restructuring Robby Anderson, while paying him exactly the same!!! Why not? That's the whole point, if Brady (27 mil a year dollar guy) decides to take less money for a given season and get paid only 6 mil (CAP hit after CAP bonus/ponzi scheme), so Bucks can retain others for SB run, I completely understand. That's the whole point though, he still got paid exact same 27 mil!!! Not apples and bananas - these are cold hard facts! Brady didn't have to take less - he took same exact amount, but cap was deferred and broken down over multiple years, so it can be easily absorbed, and then they can restructure again him or someone else to move to farther down. Finally, when they feel like there is a need to rebuild, they can pick a year to tank and be back where they started. VERY VERY different than your suggestions that Brady took less money. He didn't, and that's the whole problem. It impacts their CAP down the road broken down in small manageable chunks, at which point they can restructure again Brady or someone else. The point I am making is this total bullshit that a team that's already full of high priced players can get 46 mil a year guy by only having 10 mil in CAP space. If this is the idea of CAP system, I would like to take my drawers off, squat, and defecate all over it. Teams like us and Detroit, and Jacksonville, who don't have high priced players should be the only ones to absorb a 46 mil guy. It's very easy to fix too. Whatever amount you are paying to the guy - that's your CAP hit, whether you call bonus, base, does not matter. If you sign a multi year deal, each year's cap needs to be within say 10% of each other, so you can't cheat the system by getting a 10 mil dollar guy for example for 1 mil base, then restructuring next year.
Spot on! I couldn't possibly agree more! It's a joke. I think the whole system should be scrapped. There should be no signing bonuses, no appearing bonuses, no roster bonuses, etc. If a player is being paid $15 million per season, then that's his salary, and that's what counts against the cap. If the NFL were sincere about wanting parity instead of parody, that's what they would do. The rich wouldn't be able to get richer, and the wealth would be spread around, but I guess that would be "un-American" as capitalism reigns here. A contract should also be a contract. Teams shouldn't be able to cut players and not honor their contracts, and players shouldn't be able to hold out for new contract. I guarantee you that if that were the case. Teams and players would approach the draft and FA very differently, and there would be more stability and better play league-wide, not to mention a lot more integrity. One more thing...Watson should not have been able to have been traded and him sign a new contract until all the civil cases are cleared up and the NFL has suspended him or whatever they're going to do.
It still would be very American and very much capitalist - best players will get paid most. They just won't be able to get paid by teams already paying other great players and will need to move to other teams, which will create a much better competition amongst the franchises. Right now Deshawn can say fuck you to Texans, because he can the force them to trade him to a team of his choice with other expensive players. If the only teams who could absorb his contract were the teams with actually 46 mil available in CAP, the conversation would be very different. The Browns would have to perhaps give a team like us some great players to clear some CAP instead machination they did with signing bonus. Not to mention Houston made a pathetic trade to be quite frank. They paid more for Tonsil than they got for Deshawn. Not even a top 10 pick for top 5 player in NFL - and trade him within your own conference? Morons.
Don't blame the system, blame the Jets for sucking so badly for so long that they're never in a position to restructure contracts to win now.
I said it in the other thread, it’s a bad miss for JD IMO. Hopefully he’s got a plan up his sleeve for a WR but we’ll see.
That is really disappointing. Of course we don't have a 6th round pick this year, but that shouldn't have been a sticking point. They must be planning on drafting 2 WRs. We only have 4 including Mims. We need 6. Hopefully, the Jets aren't planning on going with 3 TEs and 5 WRs. If so, I will criticize that strategy. Especially considering the injury issues we had last season, that would be dumb.
It was reported that the Rams let Woods pick his new team. So compensation may have been irrelevant. I do not know if we were in or not.
I don't think this was it. The guy had a torn ACL and is turning 30 next month. I would look at him as a depth piece as this point, but would prefer guys who can stay on the field. No issues paying 6th rounder, which we just got from Texans, but also I would not be blaming JD for not getting him. As someone mentioned, looks like he wanted to go to Titans and Rams accommodating. No big loss there. As we have seen time and again, players want to go to the teams with good QBs who are contending. A lot is riding on Zach this season. We really need him to become that star QB and the Jets to at the very least be close to play-offs. Then players who have options would actually consider the Jets - maybe even without the "Jets tax".
Which is great but I don’t see Burks (or any rookie WR) having a Chase-type impact his rookie year. Making a move for Woods wouldn’t have precluded me from drafting a WR at 10. At this point we’re essentially in the same boat as last year except we’ve replaced Cole and Crowder with Uzomah and Conklin. Which are lateral moves or slight upgrades at best IMO. The Woods/Cooper/etc move wouldn’t have been about setting us up for the future at WR but they could’ve helped elevate Zach’s play immediately. I still like JD and I think this offseason has been a success. Hopefully he’s got a plan to add another vet WR and draft one early.
I agree. I had forgotten about that point. It probably wouldn't have mattered what we offered to the Rams if Woods didn't want to play for us. Thanks for the reminder. So it really isn't a mistake of JD's.
Just FYI, the 6th round pick that we got from the Texans for Cashman is a 2023 draft pick, not this year.
Corey Davis will play that vet WR role. I could see him take Burks at 10 and than roll the dice on Ross or Metchie in the 4th round as well.
I don’t disagree, I like CD and think he’ll bounce back from a subpar year but I just don’t see the issue with adding another guy on, or maybe slightly above, his level for a 6th. There are still plenty of WR options in FA and a ton in the draft so hopefully we add a few more options before TC.
Huh? I was responding to your comment that we got a 6th rounder from the Texans. We did, but it's not a 2022 draft pick, but rather a 2023 draft pick, so we didn't have a 6th round pick this year to trade. The 6th round pick the Rams got was from the Titans for Woods.
Top quality veteran WRs are extremely expensive. Top quality WRs in the draft are a small fraction of the price. In a draft that is strong on quality WRs, it makes a lot of sense to focus on WR in the draft and focus on other positions in FA.
