The Ukrainian situation

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  1. Kryoptix

    Kryoptix Well-Known Member

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    Insanity and mental disease.
     
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  2. mute

    mute Well-Known Member

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    This usually pops up on the mainstream news now which imo is a mistake, NBC recently did a piece on it too related to the biolab theory push by Russia.

    Also, I still keep in contact with my friend who was radicalize. I shrug it off as 'oh ok' whenever something wacky is shared. This person was getting better, but then the war in Ukraine happened..
     
  3. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    I am watching Fox News and all they do is rip K Harris apart...after that cut up Biden

    So who they want them replaced by ?

    Not such a fan of this Admin but Ukrainians would be Up the river without a paddle if Trump was still in WH

    At least NATO and Zalensky are no longer undermined
     
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  4. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah they are all the same ...we all suck . So who are we to give moral political and military support to the Ukrainians? Got it!! Brilliant

    BTW...MLK would be slamming Russia right now not supporting your KGM breeze of nihilism
     
  5. joelip

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    Thanks for posting this article pointing out how Russian misinformation has been propagated by the radical group QAnon.

    Russia is clearly attempting to justify its aggression against Ukraine by saying it invaded to rid the country of biological weapons: ”We confirm facts, unearthed as part of the special military operations, which testify to an emergency attempt to erase evidence of military biological programs,”
    Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said March 9.

    Unfortunately, not only groups like QAnon have been spreading this misinformation in the U.S., but mainstream media figures like Tucker Carlson, who has referenced sources such as the Russian military and China for the "truth" of the claim that the U.S. has supported biological weapons in Ukraine:

    Tucker: Why are we funding this? - YouTube

    Anybody who thinks critically can easily drive a tank through Carlson's arguments. Here is one fact-check from the opposing American political point of view:

    Fact-Check: Fox's Tucker Carlson Caught Amplifying Kremlin Claims - YouTube

    Additional distortions in Carlson's (and Russia's and China's) arguments can be found in this article:

    Russia, China and Tucker Carlson lack evidence on Ukraine bioweapons labs - Poynter

    If you want to get away from the American political divide on this issue, you might consider this article (translated from the French), which includes analysis by Yevgeniy Golovchenko, a specialist in Russian disinformation campaigns at the University of Copenhagen:

    China and QAnon embrace Russian disinformation justifying war in Ukraine (france24.com)
     
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  6. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    How quickly we forget about the Steele dossier.
     
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  7. joelip

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    What about the Steele dossier? Here's one relatively balanced description of its allegations:

    "Some aspects of the dossier have been corroborated,[28][22] in particular what Newsweek calls its "main finding",[29] confirmed by the January 6, 2017, Office of the Director of National Intelligence assessment,[30][29] that Putin and Russia actively favored Trump over Clinton[22] and that many Trump campaign officials and associates had multiple secret contacts with Russians.[31][32] However, many allegations in the dossier remain unverified or have been dismissed by authorities.[33][34][35] Adam Goldman and Charlie Savage, two New York Times reporters heavily involved in reporting on Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, have described it as "deeply flawed".[36]
    Steele dossier - Wikipedia
     
  8. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    What about it? It was one of the biggest hoaxes of my lifetime perpetrated by the DNC and Hillary Clinton, not some fringe group.

    The author of this article still manages to express their bias but it really does a great breakdown of the Russian conspiracy hoax.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics/steele-dossier-reckoning/index.html


    I'm sure you are ok with a CNN article, no?
     
  9. Petrozza

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    If Trump was still in WH, we would not be talking about the war in Ukraine right now.
     
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    Yep no war.

    No loss of life.

    Elections have consequences.
     
  11. Satan

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    Has tucker blamed ukraine for death of his fox colleague?
     
  12. SOXXX2

    SOXXX2 Well-Known Member

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    Good logic.

    That makes you a Nazi. Idiot.

    You must sit there everyday awaiting the return of Hitler and concentration camps you sick individual.
     
  13. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    All you ever do is post about Qanon man. They’re lunatics but they represent a minute portion of the population and are completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
     
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  14. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    So siding with Ukraine makes someone a Nazi?
    Truthful Rational Outstandingly Logical and Learned
     
  15. BrowningNagle

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    It's hilarious people on here are actually debating the biolabs and claiming it's Qanon conspiracy theory. The US government flat out said in a press conference the biolabs exist.

    Probably the same people who thought the China lab was Qanon or whatever their media overlords told them.
     
  18. SOXXX2

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    I wonder where the outcry was over this from the virtue signalers?
     
  19. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I know its hard to think beyond a meme or what Fucker Carlson tells you on TV, but there's a big difference between biomedical or biodefense laboratories and bioweapons laboratories.

    come on folks, did ya lose the ability to think? sad. The internet is supposed to make us smarter, not dumber
     
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  20. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    C'mon Soxxx...

    Those people aren't half as good looking as eastern Europeans.
     
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