Who is the SECOND Best Quarterback in Jets History?

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Who is the SECOND Best Quarterback in Jets History?

  1. Ken O'Brien

    32 vote(s)
    52.5%
  2. Richard Todd

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Chad Pennington

    19 vote(s)
    31.1%
  4. Vinny Testaverde

    7 vote(s)
    11.5%
  5. Mark Sanchez

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  6. Other (Please Name in a reply)

    2 vote(s)
    3.3%
  1. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    Just one correction it was O’Brien who led the Jets to the playoffs in 1991. The got in with an 8-8 record and it was O’Brien’s last season as the full time starter. Boomer never led the Jets to the playoffs in three years. He played relatively well for 2/3 of his first season and then began to wear down. Ironically his final season in the NFL back in Cincinnati he was tearing things up….figures.
     
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  2. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    It’s hard to choose between O’Brien and Pennington. Both were very good QBs who were derailed by injuries. Different generations so how one would vote depends on your age in most cases. FJF is correct …
     
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  3. Sack exchange

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    Thanks for the correction on that. Wasn’t it also Arizona where he lit in up, with fellow former jet, Rob Moore. I recall like a record setting game, where he had like 500 yd game.
     
  4. Savatage

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    I was going to go with Mr. August, Brett Ratliff, but, seriously, I'd say Kenny O. If Chad could've stayed healthy??? Vinny played well but wasn't here long.
     
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  5. Jeff M

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    Sometimes its more who you do not take:


    Some times its who you do not take:


    1, How on earth could they have taken Obrien over Marino ?
    2. They supposedly had Favre rated the #1 player in the entire draft - how did they not manage to move up two slots to take him in the SECOND round ?
    3. How did they pass on DeShaun Watson in that draft ?
    4. How did they manage to take Darnold over Allen and Jackson ?


    To me the first three were no brainers - I grant you #4 is a bit of hindsight. I knew Darnold wasnt that guy, but I gotta admit I wasnt sure at the time who it should have been.


    AND the BIGGIE - how did they manage to not give a guarantee to Manning when he would have been there for the taking !!!!!
     
  6. Red Menace

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    I saw all of them play, and I would still choose Sanchez. He was drafted by Jets and had the most success in playoffs, if Jets had drafted better and not tear team down around him he would have lasted as Jets starter a lot longer and had even more success!

     
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  7. bicketybam

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    Sanchez never had a passer rating higher than 78.2 with the Jets and his highest completion rate was 56.7% Saying he was 2md best because we went to the playoffs with him is like calling Trent Dilfer a hall of famer.
     
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    Great, now a passer rating is more indicative of success than playoff performance.

    You can keep O’Brien and his 3 winning seasons.
     
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    Have to respectfully disagree, Sanchez was really good at times, especially playoff time. But honestly nowhere near O’Brien, Pennington, or Testeverde. He is more on Todd level to me. Remember if we had kept Farve, we might have had 2 championships…


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  10. mrjet80

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    He went to Arizona in 1996 but was mainly a back up. He had a couple of huge games towards the end in Cincinnati in 1997.
    #2 I can answer because I remember clearly - they tried to trade ahead of Atlanta with the Cardinals and they wouldn’t do it because they were afraid the Falcons would revert after Favre was off the board and take the player they wanted - some nondescript guy I forgot his name, he never amounted to anything anyway.
     
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    I went and researched - you are correct. He was a back up in AZ - didn’t play against the Jets which happened to be the Jets only win that year. But he did wind up starting and threw for over 500 yards two weeks later against the Redskins. I thought the 500 yard game came in his final season.
     
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    I was going to say Pennington, but O'Brien was good for a while. He just had the "but he's not as good as Marino" label attached to him, so he gets underrated by many. I'll go with Ken.
     
  13. Red Menace

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    Farve was a HOF QB, he shouldn’t even be in the conversation but I liked what he did with Jets as a rental.

    Pennington had two outstanding years in the NFL and one of them was with the Dolphins, the rest of the time he was injured.

    His career with Jets was very inconsistent, I’m not bashing O’Brien and Chad as I saw all of the QBs mentioned play.

    I have two stats that I gauge my team and QB with, wins and playoffs, It’s all I care about.
     
  14. Br4d

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    Chad was healthy for 3 seasons: 2002, 2004 (injury at the end) and 2006. The Jets made the playoffs all 3 seasons.

    I saw both O'Brien and Chad play and I give Chad the nod by a little because when he wasn't taken off by injuries the Jets were always a contender.

    They were both incredibly tough competitors, dealing with injuries and playing through them when they could.
     
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  15. Unhappyjetsfan

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    Kenny O'Brien played behind a bottom-5 offensive line the vast majority of his career (if not the entirety of his career). He did have three pro-bowl caliber receivers (Toon, Walker, Shuler) and a pro-bowl caliber tailback (McNeil), but he was under constant pressure every time he dropped back. And his playcaller (Walton) was awful (We threw a screen pass on every 3rd and long for six years). And he still put up numbers.

    EDIT: As an aside, at the exact same time, the Giants had a great offensive line, and nothing at the skill positions except Bavaro. And Simms (and Hostetler) wasn't anywhere near as good as O'Brien. Yet they won Super Bowls. Which is why you always build the offensive line instead of spending money on WRs and RBs. And it's also why the most important person on a football team is (and will always be) the head coach.
     
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    Part of the Ken O'Brien issue with sacks was that the Jets ran a very vertical offense with Walker and Toon and the plays took longer to develop than most offenses. Another big part was that O'Brien held the ball as long as he had too for the deep developing plays to get open. A lot of QB's would have checked down a lot more than O'Brien did.

    If O'Brien had played in the offense that Namath played in there would have been fewer sacks. That offense was designed for Namath to get the ball out quickly and he had the fastest release in the NFL at the time - very similar to Marino's when you adjust by era.
     
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    Such a poisoned chalice is our QB spot.

    However we did have Farve and Vick, both of whom had better careers than any player except Joe N. So looking at it this way Farve is a HOF player who wore our jersey.

    Other than that, the short but very successful in jet terms, the tenure of Sanchez took us closer to the Trophy than any other player.



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  18. KWJetsFan

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    Gonna go with Kenny O. He was always taking a beating due to no o-line, yet still had a few years with good numbers. He'd be pretty damn good in the modern day NFL offense
     
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    Of all the soul-crushing injuries in sports history that has to be at least near the top. What an absolute disaster.
     
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  20. bicketybam

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    I used passer rating to be nice. Honestly Sanchez fucking sucked. We won in spite of him. If we had a QB that was good as Baker Mayfield we would have went to the SB. Sanchez was atrocious. We went into those playoffs as a wild card because of him. All road games, because of him.
     

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